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Not a something to "Fix"

Becoming pregnant is not a "problem" you have to "fix". Yes, for some it may come at a completely different time than they wanted and maybe not with the specific person they wanted, but it is not something that needs to be fixed. People just have to make a few adjustments (however big) to their life to accommodate another person. I just hate someone calling a child a problem. People need to realize that no matter how difficult it may be for a little while, after having the baby no one regrets their decision and loves that child so much.

Admirable as your sentiment is, you are wrong. If you were right and everybody loved their child and the decision they made then why are so many children in this country abandond or given up for adoption each year?

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Not a something to "Fix"

Becoming pregnant is not a "problem" you have to "fix". Yes, for some it may come at a completely different time than they wanted and maybe not with the specific person they wanted, but it is not something that needs to be fixed. People just have to make a few adjustments (however big) to their life to accommodate another person. I just hate someone calling a child a problem. People need to realize that no matter how difficult it may be for a little while, after having the baby no one regrets their decision and loves that child so much.

[QUOTE]Admirable as your sentiment is, you are wrong. If you were right and everybody loved their child and the decision they made then why are so many children in this country abandond or given up for adoption each year?[/Quote]

I have to agree...The number of children who are abandoned, given up for adoption, killed by their mothers, etc etc and so on, each year argues that for many people having a child IS a problem that requires fixing. Im not saying that pph always has the answer though, but it is a solution, and taking it away requires providing some solution to replace it. What about those who simply dont have the resources to even carry a child to term, much less care for one afterwards, what answer is there for them other than "shame on you, shouldn't have done that"...thats just cold. There are other examples as well.

The most important thing though, is that it all comes down to personal opinion. Some of you view a child, any child, as a blessing that should be treated as such. This is NOT an incorrect view. At the same time though, someone else could view that child as a problem that requires a solution. This solution could be anything from abortion to a change of plans in order to care for a child. These opinions are also NOT incorrect. There are as many truths as there are opinions about something, and all are equally valid.

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Not a something to "Fix"

Becoming pregnant is not a "problem" you have to "fix". Yes, for some it may come at a completely different time than they wanted and maybe not with the specific person they wanted, but it is not something that needs to be fixed. People just have to make a few adjustments (however big) to their life to accommodate another person. I just hate someone calling a child a problem. People need to realize that no matter how difficult it may be for a little while, after having the baby no one regrets their decision and loves that child so much.

What is most unfair to unwanted children is to kill them.

Something interesting - a study of 674 abused children found that 91% were from PLANNED pregnancies. Go Planned Parenthood. This is a study by University of Southern California professor Edward Lenoski.

Child abuse has not decreased since abortion was legalized, but has dramatically increased. Statistics reveal a sharp rise in child abuse in countries that legalize abortion. To research this: Report of the National Center of Child Abuse and Neglect, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, 1973-1982

Something must be wrong.

Check out:

Edward Lenoski, Heartbeat 3 (December 1980), cited by John Willke, Abortion Questions and Answers (Cincinnati, Ohio: Hayes Publishing Co., 1988), 140-1

And for those who are open minded, confident in their beliefs, and courageous enough to do the research:

ProLife Answers to ProChoice Arguments by Randy Alcorn

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Listen Up Men/Boys

Don't have strong opinions about issues you don't understand. If you don't have a Uterus, you don't get to vote.

IT'S HER BODY NOT YOURS! GET YOUR HANDS OFF!

it comes out of her, so guys have nothing to do with it, right? I'm a pro-choice guy, but I think this viewpoint is ridiculous. I'll fall in line with it as soon as no guy in the world ever has to pay child support.

Wonderfully put.

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Old Ag '97

I only have one thing to say...
If you can't trust a woman with a chioce, how can you trust her with a child?

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Sam

So let's make this easy. If Planned Parenthood is really all about helping, why don't they just stop doing abortions and go ahead and continue the other services? Planning should not equal death. That's what Hitler was doing as he "planned" to clean up the human race by destroying the Jews and "others."

If you are a surprised dad in this situation with a pregnant mom to be, take action, get informed and learn the best way to take care of your girl and your baby. If we can so easily do research to shop around for cars, computers and TVs, we can at the very least do research to learn about alternatives to abortion. Check out the Coalition for Life webpage and get information from other sources.

For any moms to be without a man in your life or a family to help you, please understand that there are good people willing to help. I'm not here to judge, I'm here to help and to work with anyone willing to do the best for moms, dads and the babies.

So when you say that you are going to be there to help are you going to provide childcare for her so she can work or the (at least) $600 a month to cover it? Are you going to give her the $125,000 + (by some studies) that it takes to raise a child to 18? Are you going to go with her in 18 years to take her child to college and then help the single mom pay for it? The Coalition for Life may mean well, but society as a whole needs to understand the consequences and impact outlawing abortions would have. Our economy is already having a hard time. People cannot find work. The schools are overcrowded. The Jails are overcrowded. There are already MANY MANY homeless children in America. Unwanted Children. Children up for adoption and available for foster families. How are we going to afford more children? And yes it is a "WE" because it will fall on society. I have found that many "pro-lifers" are also against welfare. Explain that one to me. And while you are helping that single mom, explain that to her too.

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Sam

I'm here to help and to work with anyone willing to do the best for moms, dads and the babies.

So somehow my offer to help leads one to think I plan on solving all the problems with financial means out of my own pocket only. Lets not be silly here, it does take a certain amount of financial, emotional, and physical help to raise a child. That's why a child is meant to be brought up by a pair of loving parents. That being said, what keeps you and I and maybe two or three other people from coming together to help a young mom out.

Part of the solution to healing this nation is helping people come to understand and respect the natural order that can sustain life. Birth, growth, formation of proper relationships (hopefully in a good solid marriage), then sexual union, and the creation of children who are raised in this amazing process again. For those whom break this natural progression or decide they would rather have sex outside of a stable marriage, they risk creating a life they may have a difficult time raising. The reality is that many people engage in sex outside of marriage particularly for their own selfish pleasure and not for the loving gift of self to another or the openness and willingness to take care of children.

All I'm saying here is that there is a better way. Its not the easiest, but anyone with the least amount of human experience should be able to realize that some of the best things in life aren't free and don't come easy. Waiting to find a spouse, form a proper relationship, and then enter into sexual union to fullfill that relationship and bring forth children is not exactly the easiest order of events. But its soo tempting and sometimes so easy to steal the reward before doing the work. Who hasn't snuck a bowl of ice cream before dinner? Now sneaking ice cream does not create another human life, but sex outside of marriage does. There is a different gravity to this situation and I'm just asking for some respect for the dads, moms, and babies.

At the end of the day you're right, it is unreasonable for one person to think they can solve everyone else's problems, but what if you and I and a few others reached out appropriately to help that mom with an unexpected child, or that poor kid whose parents beat him and now he's in foster care, or that poor girl who was molested at a young age. Haven't you needed help at least once in your life? Isn't one of the greatest gifts in the world the feeling of helping someone else up? I don't doubt for a second that our creator knew what he was doing when he made it an enjoyable experience to work as a team for the greater good and to help others in need.

God Bless those whom volunteer and put themselves out there for the needy. If we keep paying it forward perhaps one day you'll recieve help from some stranger too...

[QUOTE id="9ca45a2b-0723-469e-9776-435521c646f3"]So let's make this easy. If Planned Parenthood is really all about helping, why don't they just stop doing abortions and go ahead and continue the other services? Planning should not equal death. That's what Hitler was doing as he "planned" to clean up the human race by destroying the Jews and "others."

Well matter of fact, Hitler would have killed you for having an abortion. So opposition to allowing an abortion has at least gradually softened.

Originally posted by

Sam

Part of the solution to healing this nation is helping people come to understand and respect the natural order that can sustain life. Birth, growth, formation of proper relationships (hopefully in a good solid marriage), then sexual union, and the creation of children who are raised in this amazing process again. For those whom break this natural progression or decide they would rather have sex outside of a stable marriage, they risk creating a life they may have a difficult time raising. The reality is that many people engage in sex outside of marriage particularly for their own selfish pleasure and not for the loving gift of self to another or the openness and willingness to take care of children.

All I'm saying here is that there is a better way.

You're right, there is a better way. I am a Former Student who chose to abstain from sex until after marriage. I am also pro-choice. However, not all people are going to choose to abstain. It's just a fact. Some girls and boys who are too young and immature to make an informed decision and haven't been educated about sexual matters will find out "oh hey, this feels good," and get into activities they shouldn't.

If we abolished abstinence-only sex education and taught pre-teens that there are birth control options available - the pill, the patch, the ring, condoms, diaphragms - there would be less of a need for abortions and the like. Please, do not say that you are working hard to raise your children in a Christian household and don't want them to consider options like condoms and therefore you don't want them exposed to this at school. If you are working hard enough to instill these values in your children, the sex-ed talk at school won't shake them from their faith and other beliefs.

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THANKS AGAIN BATTALION!

How is this "real journalism?"

How does the Batt even think it can claim to be the voice of the students when it puts out garbage like this that represents a clear minority of student opinions?

I'm a pro-choice A&M student, and last time I checked, the minority still has the right to be heard in America. I'd like to keep it that way if it's okay with you. You'll kindly notice there's another article of the same title that doesn't challenge your beliefs... feel free to read that one instead.

BTW.. thanks for this well-written, informative piece.

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death row

So if abortionist are "baby killers" are death row executioners "murderers" Those felons have done their time in jail and maybe they have repented and are now forgiven by Jesus and God. Who are we to judge them. Isn't it a sin to play God? I seem to hear that a lot from the prolifers. So isnt executing someone also playing God? I am certian that while Jesus intended everyone to be good and holy, he also obviously realized that we were all sinners and that is why he died. So let people live their lives and leave the judgement to St. Peter and his crew upstairs...

You know, this may be a very good point. However, most pro-life advocates who really take this topic seriously tend to be pro-life across the board. That would include being against the death penalty and also against euthanizing elderly and terminally ill individuals. If Saul could become Paul, who's to say that some of these individuals on death row couldn't turn it around? Now I'm not saying to just open the gates of prisons and let maniacs out onto the streets again, but instead work for the true re-building of these people's lives.

From a simple fiscal standpoint, it makes no sense to kill someone with the death sentence anyways. I think it takes something of about $1.3 million to kill a man, and only a few hundred thousand to provide him a jail cell and food for life.

Here's something interesting. The State of Texas plans how many jail cells they will need by looking at the number of 3rd grade dropouts in the state. How sad is this?

Again, let's work to heal people and volunteer to bring them back to a connected life. I would imagine many, though realistically not all, would benefit from some outside help.