Student senators seek support for discrimination bill
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Riley Bryan, a junior recreation, park and tourism sciences major and student senator for the College of Agriculture and Life Sciences, drafted the bill and introduced it to Senate in the fall....
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Reade Sitton
posted 2/20/08 @ 9:34 AM CST
Amen, Marc!
While we're "changing" (Obama's entire platform, if you were to ask his supporters, apparently), might we consider Marc's remarks a little more seriously?
Can we start with finding another "measurement" for human beings other than "dollars"?
And in the interim, set the "value" of human beings at $infinite?
While we're "changing" (Obama's entire platform, if you were to ask his supporters, apparently), might we consider Marc's remarks a little more seriously?
Can we start with finding another "measurement" for human beings other than "dollars"?
And in the interim, set the "value" of human beings at $infinite?
Future Teacher
posted 2/20/08 @ 10:42 AM CST
Reade,
Actually if you had been listening to Senator Obama's stance on education you would see that he does not support standardized testing. So maybe you could make the change...start listening and educate yourself on the stance of the presidential candidate you choose to ignorantly make fun of.
Way to post comments that have nothing to do with the issue at hand here at Texas A&M.
Actually if you had been listening to Senator Obama's stance on education you would see that he does not support standardized testing. So maybe you could make the change...start listening and educate yourself on the stance of the presidential candidate you choose to ignorantly make fun of.
Way to post comments that have nothing to do with the issue at hand here at Texas A&M.
Victor
posted 2/20/08 @ 12:06 PM CST
Back to the issue at hand regarding the bill, the Student Senate should take a hard look at the problems faced by many students while at the Northgate Bar district.
Honestly....
posted 2/20/08 @ 12:07 PM CST
Is there nothing more important going on at A&M right now? Why should there be any kind of legislation instructing people how not to discriminate? What a huge waste of time and money. If everyone would stop wearing their feelings on their sleeves, this country and this university would be in a lot better shape.
Andrew
posted 2/20/08 @ 1:56 PM CST
This is a pretty silly proposal. What is the real objective here? Please tell me who is being discriminated against and how this will help? It seems to me that the only possible goal could be to silence people. Is this going to be used as a pretext to keep people from discussing religion on campus? What about politics? Will I be guilty of discrimination for pointing out that Muslims are engaging in terrorism? Or what if I point out that the bottom 50% of income earners only pay 3% in taxes? Is this discrimination against "poor" people? Is it discrimination for me to have and express the opinion that homosexuality is wrong? When it says no discrimination against "creed," what does that mean? Would say "communism" or "man-boy love" or "euthanization" count as a creed? To be honest, some things should be discriminated against. This discrimination stuff is going way too far. What started out as a nice civil rights movement has been twisted into silencing morals. Why can't people seriously just shut up and leave everybody alone. Fool around with whoever you want, just quit trying to get me to accept it. And quit trying to force it on my future kids.
Sam
posted 2/21/08 @ 12:30 AM CST
Will discrimination of the unborn be added to this bill??
Joel
posted 2/21/08 @ 3:22 PM CST
Originally posted bySam
Will discrimination of the unborn be added to this bill??
FAIL.
Heh, um... no. Last time I checked, an unborn fetus does not take the same tests I do, does not have a UIN and does not have to spend $500 on books every semester. But this bill would protect pregnant women from discriminatory policies that the University sets in place. Yay!!!
Elizabeth
posted 2/21/08 @ 1:14 AM CST
Andrew brings up a very good point. What is the real objective? Do people really think that by enacting this legislation that the feelings of discrimination will just magically go away? All it's going to do is put it on paper that we shouldn't say certain things or treat people a certain way, which I'm pretty sure the majority of the student body was taught in grade school. If we haven't learned to respect people by now, enacting student legislation isn't going to change that. Think back to your history classes and discussing integration in the 50s and 60s. The law didn't change many peoples opinions and that is still evident today. Hate is a mindset, and enacting any kind of "law" or mandate isn't going to change that. There will always be some kind of racism, there will always some kind of prejudice, and there will always be some form of discrimination. Believe me, I don't like admitting that, but it's the truth. Laws don't change the way people think. Only time does.
Ed
posted 2/21/08 @ 10:39 AM CST
I've endured enough of slurs and threats to my life because of my race and nationality as an undergraduate here. For a second it looked like there was something resembling an open admission by the student body that whatever i endured was not right. Guess i will never see that happen before i finish grad school this year.
While all of you parse over semantics, what would you have us do the next time a someone receives an ugly slur or discrimination or death threat? Have us take it like a spittoon? You guys talk a fine talk about being fair and just and what does that get us? Just another day in the Aggieland we all truly know and love i guess. You guys have no idea what it's like to be on the receiving end so quit acting like you're so educated about the subject.
While all of you parse over semantics, what would you have us do the next time a someone receives an ugly slur or discrimination or death threat? Have us take it like a spittoon? You guys talk a fine talk about being fair and just and what does that get us? Just another day in the Aggieland we all truly know and love i guess. You guys have no idea what it's like to be on the receiving end so quit acting like you're so educated about the subject.
Andrew
posted 2/21/08 @ 7:04 PM CST
Originally posted byEd
I've endured enough of slurs and threats to my life because of my race and nationality as an undergraduate here. For a second it looked like there was something resembling an open admission by the student body that whatever i endured was not right. Guess i will never see that happen before i finish grad school this year.
While all of you parse over semantics, what would you have us do the next time a someone receives an ugly slur or discrimination or death threat? Have us take it like a spittoon? You guys talk a fine talk about being fair and just and what does that get us? Just another day in the Aggieland we all truly know and love i guess. You guys have no idea what it's like to be on the receiving end so quit acting like you're so educated about the subject.
Oh how sad, your life is so much harder than everybody else. How do you know what we all have or haven't had to deal with?
FYI - Death threats are already against the law and already against the rules of the university. Right?
Adam
posted 2/21/08 @ 11:21 AM CST
Can we add police discrimination too. They only give me a ticket because I'm a college student with a nice car.
the police
posted 2/21/08 @ 3:00 PM CST
Originally posted byAdam
Can we add police discrimination too. They only give me a ticket because I'm a college student with a nice car.
You obviously haven't heard about the anti-douchebag law that just went into effect. Quit speeding or else you might wreck your parent's car.
Anonymous
posted 2/21/08 @ 12:25 PM CST
It's obvious that the Batt's editors are clearly in favor of this proposal. Thanks for your journalistic integrity.
Joel
posted 2/21/08 @ 3:25 PM CST
Originally posted byAnonymous
It's obvious that the Batt's editors are clearly in favor of this proposal. Thanks for your journalistic integrity.
Lame.
Haha, is that you Travis Holland? Oh, no, it must be David Morris... cuz yeah, the Batt is obviously a left-leaning California-surfing hybrid-buying piece of trash...
Next time you complain about the liberal insurgency on this campus... then get a reality check.
Jason
posted 2/21/08 @ 9:07 PM CST
And how exactly would this bill prevent anything? Do offenders sit in the timeout corner? Do they get their knuckles rapped with a ruler? Forced to write a heartfelt letter of apology? Given a Class Z misdemeanor for being a meany-pants?
And besides, some of those are ridiculous. Genetic information? "I don't like you or your 15th chromosome! I can tell at a glance that you have inferior tRNA. Sorry, you're rejected."
And besides, some of those are ridiculous. Genetic information? "I don't like you or your 15th chromosome! I can tell at a glance that you have inferior tRNA. Sorry, you're rejected."
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Marc
posted 2/20/08 @ 8:20 AM CST
How can a bill against discrimination truly be inclusive if it does not call for the immediate end of all college entrance requirements? The SAT and other admissions test could be considered to be culturally biased. Not to mention the darker underbelly of the business end of test preparation course. How can underprivileged children pay the $1000 for SAT reviews while in high school? SAT favors middle to upper class students.
Furthermore basing admissions on GPA is discriminatory. It is well documented that lower economic schools typically do not attract the best teachers, so instruction is substandard. When the students who attends these lower socioeconomic school have to focus more on staying alive, then getting good grade, who are we as an organization to say that the student from affluent schools who has a 3.5 GPA or better is a more worthy candidate for University.
Until a bill calls for an open door administration policy like those found in community college then any reform will itself be biased. Open the doors of A&M to anyone with a high school or even a GED.
Good job folks on shifting the focus to other groups. Open door policies is the only anti-discrimination bill that would be truly anti-discrimination.