Originally posted by

Get over it

That is exactly why we have the right to leave, we paid for the damn ticket. Get over yourselves. I have left games early when we were winning big, funny how no one yells 2% then. Get off your high horses. Just because you stay for an entire losing football game doesnt make you any better than me. As for old ags, when you were here there was nothing else to do. There werent other great football games on TV broadcast on damn near every network. Hell there were a few thousand less seats as well. I choose to leave early for a multitude of reasons. A large one being I do not want to walk out with other teams fans running there mouth around me when Im already in a foul mood at the ass kicking we just recieved. Plus ill let you "real" aggies enjoy (if u are indeed enjoying) the game without my continous shouts of dissapointment. So quit complaining to us 2% leaving the game. It is a football game not the end of the world, and if me leaving early calms my nerves then damn it im going to do it.

On a lighter note, i was very impressed and surprised at how well they played sat. I assumed it would be an 80 point shalacking.

I'm wondering if this is the same mentality students hold about class. You (or should I say, mommy and daddy) paid for your tuition, so you have the right to leave class, or simply not go at all. What a terrible mentality to have about ANYthing in life...

No mommy and daddy didnt pay for my tuition. i went to class and graduated a&m making the deans list several semesters so dont come to me with that crap, you think you know who i am because i leave a football game early. Really who the hell are you to be able to pass such judgement. Its people like you that make a&m a joke to the outside world. Of all the job interviews I had, not one asked oh your an aggie did you ever leave a football game early? I wonder why. Im guessing that it has to do with being in the real world not some fantasy college life.

Not going to a football game and not going to class are completely different. Dont even see a connection there. I go to a football for enjoyment. I went to class, wait for it... to get an education. Imagine that being at a university to get an education. Who would have thought? If we are getting are asses kicked or we are kicking ass (hasnt happened in a long time) Im gonna go where I can sit comfortably. I happen to have a bad back im not bitching or whining just something i deal with. Im not going put up with you holyer than thou aggies thinking you are god's gift to aggieland because you stay at a football game and i leave. Boo who.


As for Gonzo. You are the other reason a&m is a laughed at. You really think that because someone leaves or is not at an a&M football game they are not aggies. What a joke. It even makes me laugh. I can promise you a&m football is not the determing factor for validity as an aggie. Ive said it once and Ill say it again, get over it yourself. You are not the perfect aggie. Quit ruining every "real" aggies experience that stay for the entire game by yelling at the top of your lungs 2%. The people behind, besides, infront of you dont want to hear it. As for your fairweather fan comment, i believe that is invalid as i leave winning or losing on occasion.

Originally posted by

Get over it

That is exactly why we have the right to leave, we paid for the damn ticket. Get over yourselves. I have left games early when we were winning big, funny how no one yells 2% then. Get off your high horses. Just because you stay for an entire losing football game doesnt make you any better than me. As for old ags, when you were here there was nothing else to do. There werent other great football games on TV broadcast on damn near every network. Hell there were a few thousand less seats as well. I choose to leave early for a multitude of reasons. A large one being I do not want to walk out with other teams fans running there mouth around me when Im already in a foul mood at the ass kicking we just recieved. Plus ill let you "real" aggies enjoy (if u are indeed enjoying) the game without my continous shouts of dissapointment. So quit complaining to us 2% leaving the game. It is a football game not the end of the world, and if me leaving early calms my nerves then damn it im going to do it.

On a lighter note, i was very impressed and surprised at how well they played sat. I assumed it would be an 80 point shalacking.

Tee hee, I love it when people get ridiculously riled up on an internet comment board for a mediocre newspaper... it truly makes me chuckle.

What does making the dean's list every semester have to do with anything? Congrats, I've managed to do the same thing. We should have cookies together!

"Tee hee, I love it when people get ridiculously riled up on an internet comment board for a mediocre newspaper... it truly makes me chuckle.

What does making the dean's list every semester have to do with anything? Congrats, I've managed to do the same thing. We should have cookies together! "

Ridiculously riled up was only because you assume that my mommy and daddy paid for my schooling. I take great pride in that I paid my own way, or rather am still paying my own way. What about you, your mommy and daddy help you pay your way tiffany. If not then kudos, if so dont make assumptions just because you are a spoiled little brat. If they do I really could careles, and you may not be a spoiled brat that would be an unfare assumption because I do not even know you. See how it works.

Lets get something else straight, the Batt is not a mediocre newspaper, it is a horrible newspaper. And I comment on here because we all need a break from the day and this is my entertainment.

As for making the deans's list every semester I did not. I made it several semesters, several doesnt mean every, but way to go on the sarcasm. I almost thought you really wanted to have cookies. No thanks though Im sure you would annoy the hell out of me with your redass rhetoric and condescending attitude. Unless you are making them, then in that case where do we meet. i love homemade cookies.

Making the deans list has everything to do with the comment because it reinforces that what is actually important about being at a&m, I excelled in. No where in life will someone say to me you left a football game early you must have not gotten your diploma.

Originally posted by

Gonzo '08

No one is denying you the right to leave whenever you want, but you're still a 2%er for doing it. You are, in fact, completely wrong. Staying for the entire game, whether we're winning or losing, does make me a better aggie than you.
I bet you're the same type who doesn't pass back yells, doesn't yell on defence, sits down during the game and generally makes you wonder why they're even there in the first place. If you would rather watch other games, and are going to shout at our team rather than yell for them, save yourself the trouble and stay from now on. We don't want you half-assed, 2%er, fair weather fans in the first place.

Dude you are wrong. Look I left the games early, or just didn't go, plenty of times winning or losing. In fact I've never stayed for an entire game regardless of the outcome. Go ahead start throwing your 2%er crap but before you do realize I have a Buck Weirus Spirit Award which, bc I assume you don't have one I may be wrong, is one of the top awards given to Aggies for Spirit, Involvement, Experience, and Impact on campus. So while you were sitting in the stands wanting the attention for staying I left to go make a difference on campus, have a beer, or do anything I felt more worthy of my time. Staying for the game doesn't make you a better Aggie. Positively impacting your fellow students and putting the University first, that makes you a better Aggie. If you don't believe me ask the Association if they've ever given a Buck to somebody who did nothing but stay at the game longer...you'll find its not even considered in the process.

Originally posted by

Gonzo '08

No one is denying you the right to leave whenever you want, but you're still a 2%er for doing it. You are, in fact, completely wrong. Staying for the entire game, whether we're winning or losing, does make me a better aggie than you.
I bet you're the same type who doesn't pass back yells, doesn't yell on defence, sits down during the game and generally makes you wonder why they're even there in the first place. If you would rather watch other games, and are going to shout at our team rather than yell for them, save yourself the trouble and stay from now on. We don't want you half-assed, 2%er, fair weather fans in the first place.

I've left one game early in the six seasons I've been going to A&M football. Does that make me a better Aggie than those that leave early? No, it just means I'm an idiot and got more sunburned waiting around hoping our team and our coaches would pull their heads out of their asses.

You'll find once you hit the real world, no one is going to ask you how good an Aggie you are. They will ask you about the education that you received while at Texas A&M. So, while I bleed maroon and I love going to football games and everything about "the other education," it's my Engineering degree that makes me money. So, I'm glad I left that one game early to study for my nuclear reactor physics exam ... at least I'm not a permanent student who can't decide which liberal arts major to go into because they can't seem to hack it in something worthwile...

..flamewar..

Thanks Mike, I forgot about that one. Id come interview with you if I didnt already have a great job. Good luck though Gonzo. Instead of being an ass maybe should work on more appropriate social skills.

Originally posted by

Mike '90

Gonzo,

Please, just throw in a "Highway 6 runs both ways" and I'll completely feel like I've gone back in time to when I attended. Trust me, as I come to A&M to recruit graduating students, I automatically nix any interviewees that exude attitudes like yours. I'm not the only one by the way. So enjoy your little fantasy, because once you graduate, assuming you do, you'll find that absolutely no one in the real world cares about 2%ers. They do care about pompous idiots with massive superiority complexes like you, as you'll find out when you can't get a job.

Mike

Originally posted by

Mike '90

Gonzo,

Please, just throw in a "Highway 6 runs both ways" and I'll completely feel like I've gone back in time to when I attended. Trust me, as I come to A&M to recruit graduating students, I automatically nix any interviewees that exude attitudes like yours. I'm not the only one by the way. So enjoy your little fantasy, because once you graduate, assuming you do, you'll find that absolutely no one in the real world cares about 2%ers. They do care about pompous idiots with massive superiority complexes like you, as you'll find out when you can't get a job.

Mike

Haha, there should be more of you around. A&M does a terrible job screening people for admission. They have standards set low enough if your parents baby you your whole life and you can pass a few tests, you're in. We need interviews as a supplement to weed out retards

Originally posted by

Mike '90

Gonzo,

Please, just throw in a "Highway 6 runs both ways" and I'll completely feel like I've gone back in time to when I attended. Trust me, as I come to A&M to recruit graduating students, I automatically nix any interviewees that exude attitudes like yours. I'm not the only one by the way. So enjoy your little fantasy, because once you graduate, assuming you do, you'll find that absolutely no one in the real world cares about 2%ers. They do care about pompous idiots with massive superiority complexes like you, as you'll find out when you can't get a job.

Mike

Mike,

This is really no way to respond to a fellow Aggie. He may have a more radical view of things than you. And you are correct, staying for the entire duration of a game doesn't make one a better student, but it could say something about that persons spirit and devotion. My guess is Gonzo [for all the faults you think he has] is person who finishes what he starts and pursues things with all of his heart and mind and those are admirable qualities.
As for your saying, I am a recruiter and I wouldn't hire you (and neither will anyone else) to humiliate Gonzo...that only makes you look bad. Anyone who would say that to a student and aggie for being passionate about football and tradition is a......
Well lets just say you came off really pompous and I wouldn't care to work for you under any circumstances.

Originally posted by

Mike '90

Mike,

This is really no way to respond to a fellow Aggie. He may have a more radical view of things than you. And you are correct, staying for the entire duration of a game doesn't make one a better student, but it could say something about that persons spirit and devotion. My guess is Gonzo [for all the faults you think he has] is person who finishes what he starts and pursues things with all of his heart and mind and those are admirable qualities.
As for your saying, I am a recruiter and I wouldn't hire you (and neither will anyone else) to humiliate Gonzo...that only makes you look bad. Anyone who would say that to a student and aggie for being passionate about football and tradition is a......
Well lets just say you came off really pompous and I wouldn't care to work for you under any circumstances.

Charlie some times the truth hurts. In no way did i see that to be humiliating, maybe a blunt truth. Humiliating, not so much. It is one thing to be passionate, but to be overbearing and thinking you are superior is totally different as was Gonzo. Recruiters come looking for certain individuals that meet certain characteristics. Gonzo and obviously you do not fit the type that mike is seeking. That is in no way pompous, but the truth. And why wouldnt you get onto Gonzo for a very similar comment but much more demeaning.

Mike,

Charlie is dead on. Thanks Charlie for your comments. I suspect that there are many more aggies and recruiters that would agree with Charlie.

Having said that, staying for the whole game is not about football and I know that there are reasons for students to leave at times but it is about loyalty, love, a sense of family unique to Ags. It is being a part of Aggieland with its rich history and spirit.

There are a lot of great and successful Ags out there. Some of them 2 percenters but most not.

Gig'm Ags

Originally posted by

Mike '90

Gonzo,

Please, just throw in a "Highway 6 runs both ways" and I'll completely feel like I've gone back in time to when I attended. Trust me, as I come to A&M to recruit graduating students, I automatically nix any interviewees that exude attitudes like yours. I'm not the only one by the way. So enjoy your little fantasy, because once you graduate, assuming you do, you'll find that absolutely no one in the real world cares about 2%ers. They do care about pompous idiots with massive superiority complexes like you, as you'll find out when you can't get a job.

Mike

Originally posted by

Sloppy Dog

There are four teams in the Big 12 ranked in the top 10, A&M is ranked like around #125, and you're complaining about the fans? If we actually had some division I players who could play division I, this wouldn't even be an issue.

Quoted for truth.

Originally posted by

Sloppy Dog

No kidding, Jonathan. The first thing I realized when I got to A&M is that there is no such thing as a stereotypical Aggie. At a bare minimum, an Aggie is a person who goes/went to A&M and has respect for this school.

Only people I didn't really consider to be Aggies are the ones who were proud to be two percenters and would have been more at home in a Texas State fraternity/sorority than Texas A&M.

Dustin, people with serious majors who have goals in life are willing to study on Saturday afternoons.

What you said to Dustin is true... but, the intelligent people "with serious majors who have goals in life" budget their time wisely so that they do not have to study during that time.

2%ers = people who went to A&M that are not Aggies. If you don't know the fight song, any yells, or who the wrecking crew is.... Then you are probably a 2%er.

Attention: The wrecking crew is a bad example because the Aggie defense looks like a bunch of two year old girls running around with bags over their heads. It may be impossible to know what or who the wrecking crew would look like now.

In my personal opinion, if you want to leave the game early because you feel your time would be better spent elsewhere, leave (this does not make you a 2%er). Maybe the coaches, athletic department, or players will take notice and begin to try. The difference between a college team and a great college team is effort (just ask Gillespie). With recruits from the second largest football state...., A&M has the players, they don't have the effort. Sometimes it makes me not want to give the effort and stay until the end of the game.

Someone else has already said it in here but if A&M were to win a game or at least make it appear to be competitive, this wouldn't be a problem.

Originally posted by

Sloppy Dog

Dustin, people with serious majors who have goals in life are willing to study on Saturday afternoons.

Wow, I bet you have one of those smart persons degree's that instantly makes your life better than mine. Great, grand, good for you. As you will soon learn, it's not about your degree but your experience.

Better luck next time on trying to get shit to stick to the ceiling.

Dustin
Class of '05

Originally posted by

aggiegirl11

A&M is not just about getting an education. If I wanted to get a really great education, besides A&M, I could have chosen a multitude of other schools.

A&M is the only football team with a university attached to it.

Originally posted by

aggiegirl11

A&M is not just about getting an education. If I wanted to get a really great education, besides A&M, I could have chosen a multitude of other schools. But I wanted to get the Aggie experience. So I don't stay the whole time at football games because I "want attention" I stay because I support my Aggie team. They have to stand the whole time in the heat, so I will too. And while I don't think you're a 2%er for leaving the game early, I do think you're one if you don't respect your fellow Aggies or the traditions that make A&M the school that it is, that set it apart from all the other schools where you can also get an education, but won't find the Aggie spirit.

Isn't it great that somebody who has barely been at A&M speaks with such authority on the Aggie Spirit. HA! I actually like it, that's the kind of ownership I wish all Aggies young and old would take of the Spirit. But with that said I find it hard to take you seriously as I bet you've never really contributed to A&M. Staying at a football game isn't a contribution to your fellow Aggies as much as it is a personal preference. And you can't get the other education, you know that experience that you were talking about, at a football game. You get it through joining student organizations such as SGA, MSC, Class Councils, RHA, greek life, etc. Not one of those has anything to do with football. In addition we have some good traditions around football, if you can call standing a good tradition oh well it is what it is, Maroon Out is a good one, but we have great traditions elsewhere like Silver Taps, Muster, Ring Dance, Fish Camp, Boot Dance, Elephant Walk, E-Walk, student participation in elections, The Corp, etc. Our traditions are not so one sided that football is the only part, or even a major part, of what makes us special in terms of tradition. As a student I missed plenty of football games, but I never missed a silver taps or muster, and to me that is far more important. I think its great that you choose to stay at the football games, but realize its just that, a choice. So please save your belittling of your fellow Aggies for situations where they are really detracting from the Aggie Spirit, not just leaving a football game.

[QUOTE]Wow, I bet you have one of those smart persons degree's that instantly makes your life better than mine. Great, grand, good for you. As you will soon learn, it's not about your degree but your experience.

Better luck next time on trying to get shit to stick to the ceiling.[/QUOTE]
Degrees doesn't need an apostrophe there. You should have spent more time studying.

Originally posted by

Nicole Marion Boriski

Instead of endorsing a candidate by educating the community in a positive way with facts and useful information, the organizations involved chose to bash a fellow American by wasting food (specifically eggs) during an international food shortage and economic crisis.

I feel ashamed to be attending a university that approved this type of conduct on campus.

You probably don't even know what the carnival (yes, it was labeled a carnival) was trying to promote. You also probably don't know what a nest egg is. I am able to make this hypothesis because you are posting your comments to an article about attending football games.

Do us all a favor and go to a university that you're not ashamed of so you won't embarrass us by wearing an Aggie ring. And I hope you don't ever try to do something that doesn't turn out like you planned it would.

Since you brought it up, I am compelled to write a little more on this subject.

Yesterday at Texas A&M, the Young Conservatives (YCT) held a carnival where they were trying to raise people's awareness of Obama's economic plans. One of the events was to throw your nest-egg away. The event allowed people to throw their "nest-egg" (represented by a real egg) at a picture of Barak Obama (representing his policies). They did NOT hold an event that said to come throw eggs at Obama.

Sounds pretty funny. However, some people (don't want to stereotype but I've got to believe they were liberals) got all bothered about it and started harrassing the YCT members, throwing eggs at the members, interrupting the event and basically being a nuisance. This resulted in the event becoming rather heated, the press got involved and you can see where this is leading. "The members are a bunch of racial radicals, disrespecting Obama by pelting his picture with eggs."

What the problem really involves is people that would rather react than listen. They saw eggs being thrown and didn't stop to understand what the representation was. This is a microcosm of our population is general -- shoot then ask questions (or maybe not even ask questions).

Originally posted by

Nicole Marion Boriski

I am absolutely appalled at the negative propaganda... blah blah blah....

Tim:
Did you, or anyone else while planning this event, stop to consider what it would look like to the outside world? Did you remember that they are not used to putting up with YCT's shenanigans. Did you not think they would see something like this and draw their own conclusions? Yes reporters should say that you were symbolically throwing your nest egg away by pelting Obama's picture with eggs, but does that not sound even a little odd to you? Should we burn an effigy of Bush or McCain and claim that we are watching our tax dollars melt away in a war that most citizens of the United States do not want to be involved in? It is technically acceptable to do so, but I bet you would be there protesting it if it happened, and I have sense enough to think it's a bad idea and would likely be misconstrued. So yes, your event went tragically awry, but you seriously did not think you were going to be misunderstood? So, thanks again for getting A&M on the national news for being ignorant rednecks, because that is what the rest of the country saw. Yes some of the fault is that of the reporters for not asking questions when they saw this going on, but it is mostly the fault of the organizers for not thinking about what they were doing.

Originally posted by

Sea Bass

A&M is a second tier school? On what list? And whatever happened to freedom of speech? If they want to throw eggs at a picture of Obama, it is their choice. I guess it's only freedom of speech if you agree with it. And don't give us the whole "poor Obama" argument. Liberals have been at President Bush's neck for 8 years. So give it a rest. And learn to read. If you had taken a minute to read what they were promoting, there is nothing wrong with it. Do you even know what a nest egg is? Do you think it's a real egg?

Anyways, back on subject about 2%ers. Let me clarify. If you leave a game early (besides bus drivers), you are a 2%er. Does that make you a bad Aggie? Only if you consider "Aggieness" by who goes to the football games. I left the game at halftime on Saturday because of personal problems. It was the right thing to do at the time. Did that make me a 2%er? For that game, yes. But I've also stayed and participated in yell practice after each home loss. Do you do that Gonzo? Not bashing you, but insulting Aggies isn't really good bull, even if you do think otherwise. I will say this, Ol' Army has gone to hell.

With the price increases and students currently paying the most money for tickets in the Big 12, I don't blame many Aggies for not buying sport passes or staying for the whole game to watch one of the worst Aggie teams in the nation. If you want to criticize someone, then go after Bill Byrne who has done nothing for Aggie football except raise prices. But I do think he made the right choice on Sherman.

If you think he has done nothing for Aggie football how can you think he made the right choice on Sherman. Isn't that doing something for Aggie football?

Originally posted by

Alum 08

I went to the game on Saturday as an alum. Before I graduated I had tickets to every game, and only missed 1 or 2 I think the whole time there, and now I am in grad school so I don't really have the money to buy season tickets. The point is I came back to the game excited to see a sea of maroon and was very dissapointed that the stands were never full during the game, and were emptied very quickly...even when we won not many stayed to sing the war hymn! I just wonder why there isn't the support like there used to be. Win or lose we went to the games. Come on Ags. Cheer up. Don't you hate it when regular people become Texas fans as soon as TU starts getting near #1? People jumping on the bandwagon. The Ags will win again...and wouldn't you rather be an Aggie forever, than an Aggie only when our football team is good?

You are an '08 Alum, I'm an '07 Alum. The stands were empty just as often then as I'm sure they have been this year. Football is a product. We are putting a bad product out on the field. That is why nobody is buying it. Argue if you wish that it shouldn't be that way, but that's how it is. The better product we put out the more the stands will fill. And being an Aggie in the real world, you'll get there after your post grad assuming you aren't a professional student, has nothing to do with staying at the games. It's about recognizing integrity and hard work, and helping someone else out because they wear your ring. Why do that? Because you know they have the same set of values, by and large, that you do. Paying for a poor product doesn't make sense, using a poor product after you've bought it doesn't make sense. So stop worrying about what other people do and focus on what you do. You will be a lot happier and more productive if you do.