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Heather class of '01
posted 10/10/08 @ 9:59 AM CST
I agree with Michael's post "how about because We're the 12th man". As a former student and proud Aggie it really saddens me to go to the football games, and see students leaving before the game is complete. The fact that we stand, and stay throughout the entire game is what separates us Aggies from all the other schools. Aggies are NOT fair weather fans! Yes, we are having a rough season, but the 12th Man, and the undying support we feel for our school and our team is truly one of a kind...please don't let it die.
Jared
posted 10/10/08 @ 11:39 AM CST
because if you don't the school might actually change its priority to education rather than sports.....
That would be great
posted 10/10/08 @ 12:37 PM CST
Thanks Jared- It would be nice if a school actually focused on education.
Ryan
posted 10/10/08 @ 12:59 PM CST
Originally posted byThat would be great
Thanks Jared- It would be nice if a school actually focused on education.
Aww, come on I like reading everyone whine about how people are leaving the game early and that in their day at A&M that "NEVER" happened. Even though we all know thats BS. I was here in '01 and guess what. I left early. Got called a 2% and either laughed it off or went and found the one yelling it to pay for my ticket. Of course they did not pay for my ticket so I left.
Yes tradition is great but damn it dont let it control you and make you look like a fool. A&M is not the only school with football tradition. Get over yourselves. You people are the reason A&M has a reputation that is for sure. Unfortunately it is the reputation of being brainwashed wacko's.
I look forward to reading the comments on monday from those out of touch with reality bitching about everyone leaving the game early.
April
posted 10/11/08 @ 6:12 AM CST
Originally posted byThat would be great
Thanks Jared- It would be nice if a school actually focused on education.
First off to say that WAY BACK in 2001 people were leaving the games shows how narrow your mind is focused. 7 years does not a tradition make. Texas A&M has had a football team since 1894 always with loyal fans. It's sad to see the next generation of aggies are nothing but a bunch of spoiled little rich kids who have never had to have any accountability for anything in their lives. You expect everything to be handed to you on a silver platter and if things don't go exactly the way you want them, or your team isn't as good as you think it should be, or your mommy doesn't send you enough allowance to go drinking in Northgate, or your manicurist doesn't get your nails just right you throw childish fits. This isn't about football, this is about having some type of loyalty for your team, and respect for your school.
Jared
posted 10/11/08 @ 10:01 AM CST
April, not all students are here for the tradition. I'm here because I served in the navy for 6 years and need a degree to advance at my job...you know those things that responsible adults have so that they can pay bills, like house payments, car payments, health insurance... And if some 20 something kid wants to tell me I'm a 2%er, I'll take it as a compliment because I'm here for a piece of paper, not to play in all the reindeer games that "tradition" tells me I should. I have better things to do in my time (like work, or spend time with my wife) than to go to football games, yell practice, or anything else. If that makes me a spoiled little kid in your eyes, well that just shows how naive you really are to the world.
'88 Ag
posted 10/11/08 @ 7:12 PM CST
I agree with April. Jared, you're not even a 2 percenter. You say so yourself that you're not at A&M to be an Aggie. You're at this great institution for the degree and nothing else. That's fine. You'll get a great education. But if you choose to be just a student, and not an Aggie, to just purchase a degree, then you have no business shooting off your mouth about Aggie stuff. Just go to class and keep your bad attitude to yourself. '88 Ag
AggieGirl
posted 10/11/08 @ 7:26 PM CST
Originally posted byThat would be great
Thanks Jared- It would be nice if a school actually focused on education.
WHOOP!!! I think April is on to something here! The attitude of the students has definitely changed over the last several years.
Fightin' Texas Aggie Class of 2002!
Hmm...
posted 10/14/08 @ 8:30 AM CST
Originally posted byThat would be great
Thanks Jared- It would be nice if a school actually focused on education.
But you do have time to make yourself look like a tool on a college newspaper message board?
Burke White '76
posted 10/10/08 @ 2:36 PM CST
A vain attempt at humor. Copying David Letterman won't get you far in this world. Only one job in the world for cynicism and he's got it.
Prior to Emory Bellard, most of the time it was Highway 6, A&M 0. But the old army didn't leave.
You kids have had it so easy in football for so long you complain about everything. Blame the state we're in now on good ol' Dennis Franchione. He's now out of coaching. He could not or did not recruit. Bad results during his tenure. Run a google on results of state of Texas recruiting since he's been here and see if I'm wrong.
Mike Sherman bringing in a new offense and defense hasn't helped. The announcers for Miami said three defenses in four years. Neither has McGee's shoulder. The new one, is it Randle Jackson, is willing but green. Also our offensive line is very young.
I have confidence in Bill Byrne to get us a coach capable of winning, and winning key games. If he missed it with Sherman, we'll get somebody else. Count on it. He has winners everywhere else.
I thought Aggies were bigger than this. I must have been wrong. I have been reading '1776' about the war that led to this great country being created. They had pub patriots back then, too. There have always been bandwagon jumpers. The proof of your mettle is finishing strong.Whetheryou have the patience and intestinal fortitude to see things through.
When I made muster this year, Rick Perry said that Aggies have always been willing to pay the price, in national and community service. Do you, new army?
Prior to Emory Bellard, most of the time it was Highway 6, A&M 0. But the old army didn't leave.
You kids have had it so easy in football for so long you complain about everything. Blame the state we're in now on good ol' Dennis Franchione. He's now out of coaching. He could not or did not recruit. Bad results during his tenure. Run a google on results of state of Texas recruiting since he's been here and see if I'm wrong.
Mike Sherman bringing in a new offense and defense hasn't helped. The announcers for Miami said three defenses in four years. Neither has McGee's shoulder. The new one, is it Randle Jackson, is willing but green. Also our offensive line is very young.
I have confidence in Bill Byrne to get us a coach capable of winning, and winning key games. If he missed it with Sherman, we'll get somebody else. Count on it. He has winners everywhere else.
I thought Aggies were bigger than this. I must have been wrong. I have been reading '1776' about the war that led to this great country being created. They had pub patriots back then, too. There have always been bandwagon jumpers. The proof of your mettle is finishing strong.Whetheryou have the patience and intestinal fortitude to see things through.
When I made muster this year, Rick Perry said that Aggies have always been willing to pay the price, in national and community service. Do you, new army?
'88 Ag
posted 10/10/08 @ 5:07 PM CST
When I was a student at A&M, we always yelled FOR our team, not AT them. We stayed to the end and supported our team win or lose. That's one of the principles that separated us from t.u.'s fair-weather, bandwagon-jumping, cowbell-clanging, sore-loser, bad-winner, bedwetting fans. Now we get a real-deal Aggie as a head coach who's implementing a whole new system, and suddenly all of these faint-hearted, milk-drinking, nail biting, hiding-under-the-bed whiners start crying. Gimme a break. I'm afraid of what I'll find during my next trip to Aggieland. What's next, girls leading the guys in a 2-step at the Hall of Fame because they're too sissy to do their jobs? What's become of our beloved school? Quit yer b**ch'n & get behind your team and coaches!
Furguson, Turd
posted 10/12/08 @ 5:07 PM CST
Originally posted by'88 Ag
When I was a student at A&M, we always yelled FOR our team, not AT them. We stayed to the end and supported our team win or lose. That's one of the principles that separated us from t.u.'s fair-weather, bandwagon-jumping, cowbell-clanging, sore-loser, bad-winner, bedwetting fans. Now we get a real-deal Aggie as a head coach who's implementing a whole new system, and suddenly all of these faint-hearted, milk-drinking, nail biting, hiding-under-the-bed whiners start crying. Gimme a break. I'm afraid of what I'll find during my next trip to Aggieland. What's next, girls leading the guys in a 2-step at the Hall of Fame because they're too sissy to do their jobs? What's become of our beloved school? Quit yer b**ch'n & get behind your team and coaches!
UT's "fair-weather, bandwagon-jumping" attitude lead them to a national championship. They were overly optimistic each year and were always let down, but once they quit letting all the pre-season hype get to them and quit paying attention to the team, they won the big time. Maybe us Aggies could learn a thing or two from them and quit blowing our team when they are sucking it up this badly. Have a backbone for God's sake; quit putting these f***ers up on a pedestal when A&M Consolidated's C-team could probably take them. Lets show our players and coaching staff that it's a PRIVILEGE to wear our uniforms; we will NOT tolerate losers, and we sure as hell won't be praising them for making us the next SMU or, god-forbid, baylor. This University has a strong tradition of winning, and by praising this group of nancies, you undermine everything that this University and that tradition represent.
Gig 'em
P.S. If it were up to me, Tuberville would be here and we might be sitting on a 4-2 record, though with our players probably more like 3-3. Regardless, we'd have a much better recruiting class. A much, MUCH better recruiting class.
'88 Ag
posted 10/13/08 @ 5:21 PM CST
Uh, Tubberville is 4-3 and just fired his OC; and t.u. has his old DC. Arkansas, which also has a new coaching staff, is 3-3. Michigan is 2-4. UCLA is 2-4. Tennessee, with the same coach they've had for a long time, is 2-4. Look at how long it took Notre Dame. There are great examples of teams that have had quick turnarounds, but usually a school's fans will give a new coaching staff more than just, oh, say 6 GAMES!! to install a new system --- oh, and by the way, after losing significant players to graduation and/or the pros, and having your experienced quarterback get hurt --- and having inherited the players that were or were not recruited by the predecessor coach.
I bet you're the kind of amateur football fan who screams at the coach on the television because you could do such a better job than the professional coach who is actually on the sideline.
I bet you're the kind of amateur football fan who screams at the coach on the television because you could do such a better job than the professional coach who is actually on the sideline.
Jared
posted 10/11/08 @ 8:54 PM CST
'88 Ag, I will still be outspoken against anyone who is condescending toward me for no other reason than me not playing in reindeer games. And I do have business dealing with people such as yourself, or these kids in their early 20's who try to give me a hard time about what I do while at and away from school. You want to be so proud of what you did after high school, put your life on the line in the military, not tell me about the glory days in a classroom or what you did on campus. Tell me how you trusted the man next to you with your life as you completed a mission. Tell me how you've saved someone's life because they were electrocuted due to faulty equipment and you performed CPR on them. Do that then tell me I have no business telling off lowlifes like yourself because I'm not doing everything you did while you were at school. Tradition is one thing, but to be condescending toward someone because they're not doing what you think a student should do is just plain obtuse.
Marcus
posted 10/12/08 @ 1:44 PM CST
Originally posted byJared
'88 Ag, I will still be outspoken against anyone who is condescending toward me for no other reason than me not playing in reindeer games. And I do have business dealing with people such as yourself, or these kids in their early 20's who try to give me a hard time about what I do while at and away from school. You want to be so proud of what you did after high school, put your life on the line in the military, not tell me about the glory days in a classroom or what you did on campus. Tell me how you trusted the man next to you with your life as you completed a mission. Tell me how you've saved someone's life because they were electrocuted due to faulty equipment and you performed CPR on them. Do that then tell me I have no business telling off lowlifes like yourself because I'm not doing everything you did while you were at school. Tradition is one thing, but to be condescending toward someone because they're not doing what you think a student should do is just plain obtuse.
I don't see how saving someone's life has to do with staying for a whole game, but oh well.
This whole thing is not just about A&M and tradition, this is also about just being a good fan. A true fan, being college or pro, football or baseball, would stay and be with the team until the very end. Do you think they want to stay there on the sidelines and watch the clock tick down for another L in the record book? They would want to leave with you, but they are apart of the team and stick it out 'till the very end. I think if they do, we should also. How would you like it, if you were loosing and all you can see in the stands is mobs of people leaving?
Marcus '11
Chuck
posted 10/12/08 @ 8:45 PM CST
Originally posted byJared
'88 Ag, I will still be outspoken against anyone who is condescending toward me for no other reason than me not playing in reindeer games. And I do have business dealing with people such as yourself, or these kids in their early 20's who try to give me a hard time about what I do while at and away from school. You want to be so proud of what you did after high school, put your life on the line in the military, not tell me about the glory days in a classroom or what you did on campus. Tell me how you trusted the man next to you with your life as you completed a mission. Tell me how you've saved someone's life because they were electrocuted due to faulty equipment and you performed CPR on them. Do that then tell me I have no business telling off lowlifes like yourself because I'm not doing everything you did while you were at school. Tradition is one thing, but to be condescending toward someone because they're not doing what you think a student should do is just plain obtuse.
Get over yourself, Capt. Comando. I'm a damn veteran, and so also is a great chunk of our campus. It doesn't change the fact that being fair-weather and condescending are polar-opposites of the values and appeal that A&M represents. If you find the traditions at this university too demanding, or unworthy of your support, then you can beat feet. If you don't wanna support fellow Aggies, which is what we are all about, then keep it to yourself. Given your attitude, and boisterous post, I'll bet my lefty that you were a pogue anyway.
The football team has terrible weakness on both lines. I'm also pretty convinced that the OC and DC are going to be very temporary. The arguement that "the cupboard was left bare" is pretty tired, as we had on average, a top 20 recruiting class every year that Fran was hear. The problem is that Fran didn't know how to utilize his recruits, and the current staff still hasn't figured it out. Hopefully they do, and Sherman can get his recruiting in order. The bottom line is that we all expected (you are dumb if you didn't) to have a substandard year, but no one expected it to be quite this bad. That is still no excuse to quit being an Aggie, and if you do, then please quite permanantly, because you were never, and will never, be a real one anyway. If I had my choice we would've paid a Tubberville or Spurrier and huge salary to come and make an immeadiate impact, but Sherman deserves to have atleast 2 or 3 seasons before we crucify him. And you should never take it out on the team.
'88 Ag
posted 10/13/08 @ 4:59 PM CST
Originally posted byJared
'88 Ag, I will still be outspoken against anyone who is condescending toward me for no other reason than me not playing in reindeer games. And I do have business dealing with people such as yourself, or these kids in their early 20's who try to give me a hard time about what I do while at and away from school. You want to be so proud of what you did after high school, put your life on the line in the military, not tell me about the glory days in a classroom or what you did on campus. Tell me how you trusted the man next to you with your life as you completed a mission. Tell me how you've saved someone's life because they were electrocuted due to faulty equipment and you performed CPR on them. Do that then tell me I have no business telling off lowlifes like yourself because I'm not doing everything you did while you were at school. Tradition is one thing, but to be condescending toward someone because they're not doing what you think a student should do is just plain obtuse.
You don't know me. I'm not a low-life. I'm a fellow Aggie. Being an Aggie is not about attending a school with the greatest football team, or about bad-mouthing your own fellow students and coaches when OUR team loses. I would rather be an Aggie with a winless football team any day over being a Longhorn with a national championship.
When my son enrolls at A&M next year, I assure you it won't be because of A&M's performance on the football field. It's about the values and traditions that we all share as Aggies. It's that shared bond that we carry with us for the rest of our lives. Plenty of universities have great academics, programs, facilities and athletics. But those other schools don't have what we have.
I've been in Prague, Budapest, Paris and other places around the world where fellow Ags were excited to see an Aggie Ring. I've also met Texas-Exes who absolutely did not care about meeting a fellow Texan overseas or around our country.
During my first year as an Aggie, I just didn't get it why our school was so "hung up" on really old traditions, really old songs, and really old everything. And then one day at a football game, I looked over at the Old Ags who had come back for a forty-year reunion (or about that long). And when I saw them all stand up straight and sing OUR school song, and yell OUR yells, I finally understood. I can still remember their faces. And let me tell you, those older fellas sure as hell didn't leave the game early.
It's not that I don't think coaches or administrators should be held accountable. It's about supporting OUR team, OUR fellow students, OUR fellow Ags down their on the field. I've been to many A&M games around the country, and I have seen first hand how other schools' fans look at us with admiration and envy for what we have.
It's not too late for you. Just stop looking at your time on campus the way you are now. It will go by all too soon. Just relax. Take a deep breath. And just enjoy the time that you have being a part of this family. Football - schmootbal. You're an Aggie for life -- and there is a LOT to like about that.
Pong'93
posted 10/12/08 @ 7:59 PM CST
Things have their way..up and down..Win and Lost..Good and Bad..., so just stick with our team, give them a change..be proud of what we are, who we are even though we keep lossing...one day we will be strong again..just a matter of time...when that time come, you will proud of yourself to be the Aggies..
Picard '09
posted 10/12/08 @ 9:36 PM CST
No true scotsman would leave the game early!
'02 AG
posted 10/13/08 @ 9:04 AM CST
It is getting real tiring watching other schools in our backyard see success while we are now being compared to Baylor. Look at the teams around us- Tech, t.u., OU, LSU... Three of those schools have won nat'l titles over the past decade while we have been stuck in mediocrity. What is it going to take for us to rise back up to that level???
Hotard112
posted 10/13/08 @ 10:24 AM CST
I'm a proud Aggie Grad who participated in all the great activities that A&M has to offer. And when it comes to tradition, Ags are top-notch. However, when it comes to our football team, I'm afraid I have to agree with Turd Ferguson. A&M has a parallel budget and facilities with OU, TU, etc. A&M's problem is they allow every other school in the Big 12 to recruit the players that Slocum used to be able to sign. Look at not only OU's roster, but OkSt, Neb, Kansas,etc. They have more players from TX than their own state. A&M signs the 3rd or even 4th best athlete at every position. The only thing that will change that is a high profile coaching hire.
Mark my words, in this day of instant gratification, what have you done for me lately, crowd attendance will gradually decline further unless A&M improves. And it has nothing to do with New Army. I guarantee you, Old Army will make less trips to Aggieland to see their beloved Ags on gameday if they continue to lose. Its no fun traveling hundreds of miles to see your team get embarassed.
Lastly, my freshman year was Slocum's last at A&M. I regret that I was with the majority that wanted to see him gone. Now, in hindsight, I, as well as many others have come to realize what a major mistake that was.
Mark my words, in this day of instant gratification, what have you done for me lately, crowd attendance will gradually decline further unless A&M improves. And it has nothing to do with New Army. I guarantee you, Old Army will make less trips to Aggieland to see their beloved Ags on gameday if they continue to lose. Its no fun traveling hundreds of miles to see your team get embarassed.
Lastly, my freshman year was Slocum's last at A&M. I regret that I was with the majority that wanted to see him gone. Now, in hindsight, I, as well as many others have come to realize what a major mistake that was.
Tech Pirate
posted 10/13/08 @ 6:25 PM CST
Any of you 2%ers selling tickets? Know lots of people who are looking forward to filling your stands on Saturday.
Chuck
posted 10/13/08 @ 8:46 PM CST
Butt Pirate- Please put the word out that any TechTards that make the trip to Aggieland had better mind their manners. Given how bad our team is this year, I don't think that many people will tolerate any of ya'lls typical scumbaggish behavior.
Burke White
posted 10/14/08 @ 12:18 AM CST
Looking over the comments makes me kind of proud. We still care. It's going to be tough guys. Grin and bear it. If George Washington had the quick fix attitude, we'd still be a colony, and the British would be taxing the bejesus out of us. Yeah, it's tough to go a long ways and see your guys lose. I would just like for us to put on a good showing this year-maybe every year. It reminds me of one of the first games I saw at A&M. We played Boston College. We got outscored. But I was proud to be around a bunch of people who didn't lose their mettle. We just got outscored. We used to have yell practice after each incident like this. It was like the Twelth Man didn't back the other eleven well enough. We need to regain that attitude. Maybe the team will slack because we yell for them so. Do it anyway. It's the Aggie way. I would like to remind some people that t.u. has ALWAYS had fair weather fans, bandwagen jumpers. They have some rich alums who cut loose some big bucks for a up-and-coming coach, then the success record. They were doing worse than us for awhile-77-0 against UCLA in Austin-and all the fans leaving. Getting Tuberville is a moot point. He's not available. I believe we'd have to buy out his contract, then pay on top. Seems like a figure of $30 million thrown around. BIG BUCKS. For a guy who is older, wouldn't have that long a career here. Look at what happened with South Carolina and Steve Spurrier. They paid big, got a guy in twilight of career. If this guy doesn't work out we'll get another. Give him a few years. Cut him some slack. You also need to remember the other teams in the Big 12 South HATE US. They don't like or understand our traditions. They want us to be like them. I have family that went to Baylor. It's true. What they don't understand is that we aren't around to impress them or anyone else, that we like being the most unique college on the face of the earth. I'm a non reg and I got it. Please some of you young guys-you'll be proud at your 20 or 30 year reunion if we keep the traditions. As for Tech trash, they had better be on their best behavior because I don't think we're in any mood for nonsense.
AGEE04
posted 10/14/08 @ 9:19 AM CST
Yes, Aggie fans should not be bandwagen jumpers and yes it is good to support your team during down times. At the same time however, there needs to be some accountability. We are the University of Texas A&M, what I believe to be the best University in Texas. Texas is the second largest state, and one of three states where football players are bread to go and play in college and the pros.
I can see schools like t.u. and zero U being able to get good recruits from Texas but, A&M should be next in line. Are you telling me that frikin hick town, bad attitude, low I.Q. Lubbock can get better athletes then us? And Baylor?? And OSU??? And Kansas???? And Kansas what the crack State???? Give me a break!!!! We spend more than the last five schools mentioned trying to get top athletes to play here. Somehow we are doing a terrible job.
We need someone who can recruit, and then after they recruit, they need to condition our real good high school athletes into great college football players. It is ridiculous that we have to "wait until we get the right kids in place". That worked great with Franchione. No, good athletes can become good football players, no matter what type of system they have to learn. The problem is they have to put forth the effort to be great or their coaches have to make them put forth the effort, if not they should be off the team. (Great example here Martellus Bennett, great athlete turned into soft crap at ATM) I went to coaches' night the last few years and hearing Gillespie speak got me pumped up and ready for the next season. Franchione and Sherman made me sad and want to go to sleep. Neither of them could scare a fly in to trying as hard as possible and they couldn't pump me up if they had a air compressor sitting next to them.
How quickly Ags forget how effort brought us from being a nothing basketball school to one that was competing for a National Title. Guess What Ags??? It only took 2 years and each year our team improved. Sure they were made to work hard to achieve excellence but that is how you achieve excellence.
Accountability is the key here. Make great athletes great football players, as Aggies we should expect nothing less.
I can see schools like t.u. and zero U being able to get good recruits from Texas but, A&M should be next in line. Are you telling me that frikin hick town, bad attitude, low I.Q. Lubbock can get better athletes then us? And Baylor?? And OSU??? And Kansas???? And Kansas what the crack State???? Give me a break!!!! We spend more than the last five schools mentioned trying to get top athletes to play here. Somehow we are doing a terrible job.
We need someone who can recruit, and then after they recruit, they need to condition our real good high school athletes into great college football players. It is ridiculous that we have to "wait until we get the right kids in place". That worked great with Franchione. No, good athletes can become good football players, no matter what type of system they have to learn. The problem is they have to put forth the effort to be great or their coaches have to make them put forth the effort, if not they should be off the team. (Great example here Martellus Bennett, great athlete turned into soft crap at ATM) I went to coaches' night the last few years and hearing Gillespie speak got me pumped up and ready for the next season. Franchione and Sherman made me sad and want to go to sleep. Neither of them could scare a fly in to trying as hard as possible and they couldn't pump me up if they had a air compressor sitting next to them.
How quickly Ags forget how effort brought us from being a nothing basketball school to one that was competing for a National Title. Guess What Ags??? It only took 2 years and each year our team improved. Sure they were made to work hard to achieve excellence but that is how you achieve excellence.
Accountability is the key here. Make great athletes great football players, as Aggies we should expect nothing less.
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posted 10/10/08 @ 9:33 AM CST