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Zetas leave house over safety concerns

Abstract:
Instead of spending the rest of the semester at their sorority house, the 40 members of Texas A&M's chapter of Zeta Tau Alpha who reside in the house are moving into a hotel. ...

Reade Sitton

posted 2/27/08 @ 9:58 AM CST

"The displaced sorority members will live at the Hawthorn Suites at the corporation's expense for the rest of the semester."

The Hawthorn Suites corporation expense or ZTA expense? Please correct me if I'm wrong here, as if it matters.

WOW, that's big of you, Hawthorn (or ZTA)! You didn't have to, you know. Mother Nature sometimes "takes people's houses" from them and leaves them in "chin deep rancid water on Bourbon Street". Not a thing you can do about it! How HEROIC rescuing the Zeta women from the "rising flood waters"!

I've never thought "white girl in trouble" applied in these situations. I rather think "high class, young person in trouble" is the true "rule".

It's an improved rule for sure (glass half full)! Still "class" rules our country. Far less often is the "line" along racial boundaries - the improved part.

So powerful a system it is, this remaining classist one of our's, that a pushing-2nd (firmly third) world country, us, can not only COIN the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd world "classes"! It has the vanity to imagine itself among the "classiest"!

agswin06

posted 2/27/08 @ 11:24 AM CST

Shut the Hell up Reade....no one gives a rat's ass what you have to say.


Originally posted by

Reade Sitton

"The displaced sorority members will live at the Hawthorn Suites at the corporation's expense for the rest of the semester."

The Hawthorn Suites corporation expense or ZTA expense? Please correct me if I'm wrong here, as if it matters.

WOW, that's big of you, Hawthorn (or ZTA)! You didn't have to, you know. Mother Nature sometimes "takes people's houses" from them and leaves them in "chin deep rancid water on Bourbon Street". Not a thing you can do about it! How HEROIC rescuing the Zeta women from the "rising flood waters"!

I've never thought "white girl in trouble" applied in these situations. I rather think "high class, young person in trouble" is the true "rule".

It's an improved rule for sure (glass half full)! Still "class" rules our country. Far less often is the "line" along racial boundaries - the improved part.

So powerful a system it is, this remaining classist one of our's, that a pushing-2nd (firmly third) world country, us, can not only COIN the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd world "classes"! It has the vanity to imagine itself among the "classiest"!

Todd

posted 2/27/08 @ 12:46 PM CST

Originally posted by

Reade Sitton

"The displaced sorority members will live at the Hawthorn Suites at the corporation's expense for the rest of the semester."

The Hawthorn Suites corporation expense or ZTA expense? Please correct me if I'm wrong here, as if it matters.

WOW, that's big of you, Hawthorn (or ZTA)! You didn't have to, you know. Mother Nature sometimes "takes people's houses" from them and leaves them in "chin deep rancid water on Bourbon Street". Not a thing you can do about it! How HEROIC rescuing the Zeta women from the "rising flood waters"!

I've never thought "white girl in trouble" applied in these situations. I rather think "high class, young person in trouble" is the true "rule".

It's an improved rule for sure (glass half full)! Still "class" rules our country. Far less often is the "line" along racial boundaries - the improved part.

So powerful a system it is, this remaining classist one of our's, that a pushing-2nd (firmly third) world country, us, can not only COIN the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd world "classes"! It has the vanity to imagine itself among the "classiest"!


First learn to write and pose logical arguments, then learn to read for comprehension and context. It is fairly obvious that it is the Zeta corporation who is the landowner and therefore must provide alternative housing arrangements for its tenants when their property becomes structurally dangerous.

Now although this doesn't really fit your obvious agenda, acts of God such as hurricanes are not typically predictable and therefore don't fall under the landlords responsibility. That is where the Government hopefully steps in to assist (which they failed miserably to do in the Katrina situation.) So certainly continue to complain, as we all should do, about the Katrina failures, but please do not try and extrapolate this, a simple landlord-tenant arrangement into a condemnation of how different classes are treated as it really doesn't apply in this situation. It makes you look silly and uninformed...

the H.M.

posted 2/27/08 @ 2:18 PM CST

This has simply just been a matter of safety for the girls who have been living there throughout this year. Structural and foundation concerns are quite serious when you take into account that 40 girls live in the same house, most on the same floor. A house with those concerns can't just hold all of that weight. Not only that, the short notice (2 days) the girls had and the positive attitude that they have portrayed simply states that this is not a "white girl in trouble" or "high class" case. If you don't know any of these women let me just inform you that they're not looking for self pity or a huge "aww i'm sorry", and how anyone can make the grave assumption that ALL 200 girls are indeed your "high" class is beyond me.
Based upon the article, it clearly states that the Housing Corp. is funding everything, not the hotel itself. AND the housing corp. made the arrangements for the residents of the sorority house, not the hotel itself. So in about two sentences, REED, you manage to not only put down the organization as a whole, but also a great business here in College Station. WOW. Way to show that Aggie spirit. (Would YOU want to be seriously injured while living in an unsafe home? Let's hope that even in your case we wouldn't have to ask that.)
On another note, i'm SO glad you view these women as "class" or let's say what you really meant: a joke. I'd like to bring into account that these ladies raise AT LEAST $55,000 per year to Breast Cancer Research and Awareness AND get the whole university involved with this philanthropy.
I guess that these "high class" girls really can do something for others, who would have thought.
So please go ahead and think what you like, but I know i'd rather have CLASS than make rude assumptions that don't even pertain to the correct information stated in the article.

PFG6727

posted 2/27/08 @ 6:37 PM CST

I don't think that the article in The Battalion was published to ask the student body for a handout. I believe that article was placed to inform Texas A&M of events happening on this campus. It is not fair for you to say the things that you have when you have no idea what these girls are probably going through and what seems to be an extremely stressful situation. Those girls have voluntarily joined an organization in which they pay to be a part of and then involuntarily moved due to structural concerns. I feel that you do not have the right to say anything because they are not asking you for help of any kind. When these girls personally come to you and ask you for something, then you have the right to state your opinion. When you are asked to open your wallet or your home, then you can open your mouth. Until then, it would be wise to keep your mouth shut regarding matters that do not concern you personally.

My House Is Safe :-)

posted 2/27/08 @ 8:11 PM CST

Extremely stressful, really? You get taken out of one mansion and put into another and this is stressful? No one has to keep their mouths shut because they VOLUNTARILY asked for this attention by letting this story be published on the FRONT PAGE of the batt. They brought on themselves knowing that many on this campus don't like them. Nobody's house fell down and nobody got hurt so why tell the whole campus of what happenned, NO ONE GIVES A DAMN.

I'd also say that asking for a bus route to be changed so that it could accomodate them (which constitutes asking for help) brings me into the picture because they won't do it for me and my route.

L.M.P

posted 2/27/08 @ 9:44 PM CST

Originally posted by

Reade Sitton

"The displaced sorority members will live at the Hawthorn Suites at the corporation's expense for the rest of the semester."

The Hawthorn Suites corporation expense or ZTA expense? Please correct me if I'm wrong here, as if it matters.

WOW, that's big of you, Hawthorn (or ZTA)! You didn't have to, you know. Mother Nature sometimes "takes people's houses" from them and leaves them in "chin deep rancid water on Bourbon Street". Not a thing you can do about it! How HEROIC rescuing the Zeta women from the "rising flood waters"!

I've never thought "white girl in trouble" applied in these situations. I rather think "high class, young person in trouble" is the true "rule".

It's an improved rule for sure (glass half full)! Still "class" rules our country. Far less often is the "line" along racial boundaries - the improved part.

So powerful a system it is, this remaining classist one of our's, that a pushing-2nd (firmly third) world country, us, can not only COIN the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd world "classes"! It has the vanity to imagine itself among the "classiest"!


1. Stressful? YES! Packing up all your belongings in little over 24 hours, while trying to finish projects and study for tests (considering it's midterms) I can imagine would be stressful.
2. Obviously someone likes the Zetas considering the people at the Batt choose the page the article goes on NOT the people the article is written about.
3. A press release is issued ahead of time to prevent false rumors from forming, NOT for attention.
4. As far as the bus route goes, the Housing corporation is obviously trying to best accomodate the girls considering they were uprooted in the middle of the semester.
P.S. The fact that you are mocking these girls with the name "My house is safe" shows how heartless, pathetic, and immature you really are...go back to kindergarten with that shit.

Greek Alum

posted 2/27/08 @ 10:24 PM CST

I am ashamed of you Reade Sitton! You are collecting a salary from Texas A&M. Who needs employees like yourself. I have always heard of the "Great Texas A&M Family" how they stick together and support each other!!! What happened to your sorry ass? It sounds to me like you were NEVER invited to a "Crush Party" and you were CRUSHED!! Is it sour grapes? Get a life and GO GREEK!!!
Originally posted by

Reade Sitton

"The displaced sorority members will live at the Hawthorn Suites at the corporation's expense for the rest of the semester."

The Hawthorn Suites corporation expense or ZTA expense? Please correct me if I'm wrong here, as if it matters.

WOW, that's big of you, Hawthorn (or ZTA)! You didn't have to, you know. Mother Nature sometimes "takes people's houses" from them and leaves them in "chin deep rancid water on Bourbon Street". Not a thing you can do about it! How HEROIC rescuing the Zeta women from the "rising flood waters"!

I've never thought "white girl in trouble" applied in these situations. I rather think "high class, young person in trouble" is the true "rule".

It's an improved rule for sure (glass half full)! Still "class" rules our country. Far less often is the "line" along racial boundaries - the improved part.

So powerful a system it is, this remaining classist one of our's, that a pushing-2nd (firmly third) world country, us, can not only COIN the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd world "classes"! It has the vanity to imagine itself among the "classiest"!

J+R

posted 2/27/08 @ 10:26 PM CST

"my house is safe" if you didn't "give a damn" then why the hell are you even reading and faithfully commenting on the article? ...you obviously care or you're just bored with your own pitiful life..

PKP589

posted 2/27/08 @ 11:38 PM CST

Reade,
First of all, who are you to comment on this situation. These girls have put a lot of time and money into their organization. A Greek organization on this campus especially the sororities live and die by their houses. I wont even get into what this means for fall rush, chapter organization, and day to day life half way through a semester. Not to mention the seniors and juniors who spent their final hour in the house they were rushed, lived, and created the best memories of their life in. You see this as the loss of a house, while any Greek would see it as a gash in the heart of their organization. So before you tear into class lines and political talk maybe you should stop thinking of yourself and start thinking of what this means to the girls of that organization and a community of which you have no understanding. This situation cannot hold a candle to Katrina, but if you keep the chain going, can Katrina hold a candle to the Tsunami of years past. You never know this situation may give them more understanding of the plight of others, but I'm sure they are just a bunch of "rich" girls with too many other personal drama to think about. Or thats at least how you see it. Don't comment on what you have no understanding of.

My House Is Still Standing

posted 2/29/08 @ 11:50 PM CST

Originally posted by

Reade Sitton

"The displaced sorority members will live at the Hawthorn Suites at the corporation's expense for the rest of the semester."

The Hawthorn Suites corporation expense or ZTA expense? Please correct me if I'm wrong here, as if it matters.

WOW, that's big of you, Hawthorn (or ZTA)! You didn't have to, you know. Mother Nature sometimes "takes people's houses" from them and leaves them in "chin deep rancid water on Bourbon Street". Not a thing you can do about it! How HEROIC rescuing the Zeta women from the "rising flood waters"!

I've never thought "white girl in trouble" applied in these situations. I rather think "high class, young person in trouble" is the true "rule".

It's an improved rule for sure (glass half full)! Still "class" rules our country. Far less often is the "line" along racial boundaries - the improved part.

So powerful a system it is, this remaining classist one of our's, that a pushing-2nd (firmly third) world country, us, can not only COIN the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd world "classes"! It has the vanity to imagine itself among the "classiest"!



Wow a house less than 30 years is falling down, are we in the ghetto or what? Ya'll should slow down all that nighttime bumping in your beds, it's making your house unsafe.

Jenna Tolls

posted 3/04/08 @ 9:38 AM CST

Originally posted by

Reade Sitton

"The displaced sorority members will live at the Hawthorn Suites at the corporation's expense for the rest of the semester."

The Hawthorn Suites corporation expense or ZTA expense? Please correct me if I'm wrong here, as if it matters.

WOW, that's big of you, Hawthorn (or ZTA)! You didn't have to, you know. Mother Nature sometimes "takes people's houses" from them and leaves them in "chin deep rancid water on Bourbon Street". Not a thing you can do about it! How HEROIC rescuing the Zeta women from the "rising flood waters"!

I've never thought "white girl in trouble" applied in these situations. I rather think "high class, young person in trouble" is the true "rule".

It's an improved rule for sure (glass half full)! Still "class" rules our country. Far less often is the "line" along racial boundaries - the improved part.

So powerful a system it is, this remaining classist one of our's, that a pushing-2nd (firmly third) world country, us, can not only COIN the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd world "classes"! It has the vanity to imagine itself among the "classiest"!


Amen.

john

posted 3/06/08 @ 9:28 AM CST

This is still relevant to my interests

Bus Driver

posted 2/27/08 @ 12:09 PM CST

Seriously, you expect Transportation Services to rearrange a bus route to accomodate your 40 o-so-helpless girls. Route 12 already goes that way. Walk a lil bit up University and get to campus. Otherwise get a charter for the rest of the semester. I'm sure you can afford it. It's not the end of the world.

sit down bus driver

posted 2/27/08 @ 2:39 PM CST

Actually if you will read the article it clearly states that it was ANN GOODMAN who was requesting to change the bus route, NOT the ZETAS! They have not asked for any favors or handouts and have not been complaining to anyone for help. So bottom line- just shutup and drive your bus!!

P.S. You're probably the one who would have to stop at the hotel for the new route!


Originally posted by

Bus Driver

Seriously, you expect Transportation Services to rearrange a bus route to accomodate your 40 o-so-helpless girls. Route 12 already goes that way. Walk a lil bit up University and get to campus. Otherwise get a charter for the rest of the semester. I'm sure you can afford it. It's not the end of the world.

Bus Driver

posted 2/27/08 @ 7:58 PM CST

"Actually if you will read the article it clearly states that it was ANN GOODMAN who was requesting to change the bus route, NOT the ZETAS! They have not asked for any favors or handouts and have not been complaining to anyone for help. So bottom line- just shutup and drive your bus!!

P.S. You're probably the one who would have to stop at the hotel for the new route!"


Lil touchy are we? I was aiming the comment towards her (btw she represents the zetas, so her requesting it equals the zetas requesting it).

PS. Out of over 200 drivers, I doubt I'd be the one. But if I was it, I'd be more than happy to make their ride as bumpy as possible. :-)

They might not be asking for help (which they actually ARE since they are asking for the route to be changed), but by making the front page they sure are asking for attention.

Where Are The True Ags?

posted 2/29/08 @ 10:36 AM CST

Originally posted by

Bus Driver

Seriously, you expect Transportation Services to rearrange a bus route to accomodate your 40 o-so-helpless girls. Route 12 already goes that way. Walk a lil bit up University and get to campus. Otherwise get a charter for the rest of the semester. I'm sure you can afford it. It's not the end of the world.


Really? Are you even an Aggie? With comments suggesting you would intentionally deliver them a bumpy ride aren't you kinda letting the world know your a douche, and obviously a poor driver? Were you abused or touched as a child by your mother and thus feel the need to take it out on women you don't even know? If so I'm sorry seek help, but you've got to get over yourself. The fact that this story was on the front page is indicative of a slow news day at the Batt. In case you were unaware the Batt picks the outlays for stories not student organizations and this was obviously the biggest story they had. And while nothing in the article suggests that the members, only thier advisor, are asking for help; if they were you SHOULD give it to them you are an Aggie for crying outloud, though obviously not a committed one. The sad thing is one day you will trade on your ring expecting somebody to help you out cause y'all are both Aggies, and they will yet you will never extend the same hand. That sir, or m'am for all I know, makes you an un equivocable, don't care if its not a real word, douche.

Student

posted 2/29/08 @ 12:33 PM CST

Originally posted by

Bus Driver

Seriously, you expect Transportation Services to rearrange a bus route to accomodate your 40 o-so-helpless girls. Route 12 already goes that way. Walk a lil bit up University and get to campus. Otherwise get a charter for the rest of the semester. I'm sure you can afford it. It's not the end of the world.


Where Are The True Ags? At this point, Aggies are no more than a marketing plot meant to attract students and to boost the egos of people like you. I came here in the pursuit to be part of a "family". Truth is you can find that anywhere you look and this place is not special because of it. Through my years, it is evident that this is a just a college. I am here for my education and to expand my view in life. It's a lot less stressful this way. If one day I get my ring, the one thing that it will represent is the fact that I graduated from an academically good university.

How I got so off track from the whole sorority girl thing I have no clue.

Where Are The True Ags?

posted 2/29/08 @ 1:57 PM CST

Originally posted by

Bus Driver

Seriously, you expect Transportation Services to rearrange a bus route to accomodate your 40 o-so-helpless girls. Route 12 already goes that way. Walk a lil bit up University and get to campus. Otherwise get a charter for the rest of the semester. I'm sure you can afford it. It's not the end of the world.


Meant for the post from Student. There is nowhere else in the world that has the family atmosphere like Texas A&M. Try finding that in Lubbock, Austin, San Marcos, Stillwater, Norman, etc. They all go to school to get an education, but they don't become part of something bigger. Aggies are recognized by all schools, and employers for that matter, as different because of the connection and loyalty we, in general, feel towards one another. It's not just a cheap marketing ploy as you suggest. And it doesn't feed the ego, ego being a sense of ones self greatness not one's groups' greatnes, rather it makes me feel proud to contribute to a place that has given me so much I can't possibly repay it. But I try I recommend Aggies for jobs, which several have gotten, I more than happily pick up a phone to make an introduction, I give back financially even though I'm pretty fresh out of college and still don't make much. The reason I do this is not so I get my pat on the back, my ego can do that for me...jk, but because I feel like I'm a part of a family, I know other Aggies, unfortunantly not all, feel that way and will do the same. Maybe you don't feel the Aggie Spirit but if you're honest with yourself its probably because you don't care as you said you are just there for an education. So don't suggest that its all one big ploy for students, honestly how different we are probably drives away more students than it brings in, because for the vast majority of us its a real feeling and sense of family that we experience day in and day out. And to me that's what it means to be a true Aggie.

Wow, you sure are an Aggie!

posted 3/02/08 @ 7:55 PM CST

Originally posted by

Bus Driver

Seriously, you expect Transportation Services to rearrange a bus route to accomodate your 40 o-so-helpless girls. Route 12 already goes that way. Walk a lil bit up University and get to campus. Otherwise get a charter for the rest of the semester. I'm sure you can afford it. It's not the end of the world.




Ok so you can't go around saying that Aggies are the best in the world while calling somebody a "douche" and saying things like "Were you abused or touched as a child by your mother and thus feel the need to take it out on women you don't even know?" That makes you...whats that word...a hypocrite. The person wasn't even that much of an ass and didn't direct any obscenities towards the girls. You on the other hand...

getoverit

posted 2/27/08 @ 12:53 PM CST

Do you seriously expect these girls to just find new places to live? This was their home and they just had to pick up and leave! Get over yourself this has nothing to do with you!

WHODAT

posted 2/27/08 @ 12:56 PM CST

Bus Driver, I am sorry you have not ever had a girlfriend...I cannot imagine why not...

not a bus driver

posted 2/27/08 @ 1:09 PM CST

Originally posted by

WHODAT

Bus Driver, I am sorry you have not ever had a girlfriend...I cannot imagine why not...



I'm impressed that you can determine the gender of the person posting without any indication whatsoever.

busdriver who is a girl and a sorority member

posted 2/27/08 @ 5:51 PM CST

really do you expect us to make up a whole new route mid semster just to accomadate 40 ppl when there are prob 40 other plus ppl who live in various other parts of the ever expanding cs....please

Where Are The True Ags?

posted 2/29/08 @ 10:48 AM CST

Originally posted by

WHODAT

Bus Driver, I am sorry you have not ever had a girlfriend...I cannot imagine why not...


Are y'all somehow enequipped to drive a bus to a different part of town. Seriously they aren't on rails you CAN take them wherever you want. And having sat on the Transportation UComm in the past and worked with Rod, I know it is not impossible nor unheard of to change one or more routes in the middle of a semester, though you obviously don't care enough about your job to research that history. Which if you don't care about delivering quality service and doing your job to the best of your ability for the University and its students, why even have it? McDonalds probably pays better and thier you wouldn't have to put up with as many Aggie females which you obviously view as annoying and problematic. Whether they change a route or not is irrelevant, I suspect they will make some accomodations even if it doesn't involve a route change, what is relevant is you have issues and serious ones either you have forgotten what it means to be an Aggie or, even worse, you never cared enough to learn in the first place. And as for the other students that live else where not on a bus route, they choose prior to the semester starting where to live and were able to take into account transportation issues associated with this decision, these girls did the same and had there home ripped out from under them completely changing their transportation situation. Think before you speak though I doubt it will matter with an attitude like yours I bet you leave to finish school in Lubbock before you ever even get your ring.

Callie Howard

posted 2/27/08 @ 1:40 PM CST

As a fellow Greek Life member, it appalls me that some people clearly have no common sense. A previous comment about this being a "white girl in trouble" but rather about "high class, young person in trouble" is absolutely absurd.

Being Greek is one of the most valuable experiences that I've ever had, and being a part of something so large (it consists of almost 10% of undergrads) and important organization dated back to the 1890's, is something I would never give up.

I'm by no means from a "high-society" with wealthy parents, but there are many of us who work jobs to pay for this choice and opportunity. So to think of this as a class issue, it is not. It is simply a situation at hand that a group of girls pay to live somewhere, and they have to move. Greek or not, their apart of our Aggie family!

really

posted 2/27/08 @ 1:43 PM CST

A. they dont all have money that is a very ignorant statement
B. i hope that any person who responds rudely to their situation never has anything happen to them in which they need help because if you feel that it would be ok to leave people on the street than that is what you deserve as well
C. who really cares they are taking care of it and i dont think they really care about your comments or anything else
D. saftey is the most important thing in this situation not where it is they are living but the fact that if their house fell down that could kill up to 150 fellow aggies if was durring a meeting
E. A&M is based on support of fellow students and they arent asking for help from anyone i think it would be best to just stay out of it unless you are offering support

busdriver who is a girl and a sorority member

posted 2/27/08 @ 6:28 PM CST

like the other bus driver said if the corp really wanted to provide everything that the girls are losing my moving they can pay for a charter bus for the rest of the semester. it could take the girls to and from campus. also if they really wanted to they could set it up so that the girls could park at the house for meetings and have a charter bus take them to campus. what goodman has to remember is that that route is not only for the occupants of sorority row but for everyone else who lives in that area. to ask transportation services to reroute midsemester is just out of the question. especially if its not a long term deal.

really it sucks that they have to be displaced but the purpose of living in the house is so that you can be with your sisters. these girls will still be able to live together but in a different setting.

ewok

posted 2/27/08 @ 9:13 PM CST

Originally posted by

busdriver who is a girl and a sorority member

like the other bus driver said if the corp really wanted to provide everything that the girls are losing my moving they can pay for a charter bus for the rest of the semester. it could take the girls to and from campus. also if they really wanted to they could set it up so that the girls could park at the house for meetings and have a charter bus take them to campus. what goodman has to remember is that that route is not only for the occupants of sorority row but for everyone else who lives in that area. to ask transportation services to reroute midsemester is just out of the question. especially if its not a long term deal.

really it sucks that they have to be displaced but the purpose of living in the house is so that you can be with your sisters. these girls will still be able to live together but in a different setting.



I am also in Greek Life, but I can't even believe this. First of all, the idea of a charter bus is probably out of the question. Would you, as a SORORITY member want to even pay for this? get real. They didn't even ask for a bus route, so lay off. And as for revealing that you're in a sorority, what a great way to even represent Greek Life. No wonder why people think we're stuck up and snobby. It's because there are comments like this out there for all to see. (including the comment found earlier on this page.) I feel that if there is nothing positive to say about this ordeal, then why are you even involved in an organization such as a sorority? Put yourself in someone elses shoes. Yes they can still live together just in a different setting, but what if it was you? Would you want JUST respect from other chapters? I would hope you would have an answer that reflects why we even have these great organizations, or else there'd be plenty of people very ashamed and dissapointed.

LIKE OMG IM A TOTAL ZETA :-)

posted 2/27/08 @ 9:34 PM CST

Originally posted by

busdriver who is a girl and a sorority member

like the other bus driver said if the corp really wanted to provide everything that the girls are losing my moving they can pay for a charter bus for the rest of the semester. it could take the girls to and from campus. also if they really wanted to they could set it up so that the girls could park at the house for meetings and have a charter bus take them to campus. what goodman has to remember is that that route is not only for the occupants of sorority row but for everyone else who lives in that area. to ask transportation services to reroute midsemester is just out of the question. especially if its not a long term deal.

really it sucks that they have to be displaced but the purpose of living in the house is so that you can be with your sisters. these girls will still be able to live together but in a different setting.



This girl represent you all a HELL OF A LOT BETTER than most of the rest of you. She is realistic unlike ya'lls Greek Life staff who obviously think you are better than other Ags and deserve a route change. Get a clue girls.

bus driver who is a girl and a sorority member

posted 2/27/08 @ 10:20 PM CST

first of all i never said the girls would have to pay for the bus. i said if the corporation which is paying for their relocation really wanted to give them everything they were losing by moving them "they" the corporation should pay for the bus. why would i ever suggest for the girls to pay for it? they're the ones getting displaced. so i am being real. and i know they didn't ask for a route change if you reread what i wrote i cited that goodman the greek life staff memeber asked for the route change. and i'ld have to say i represent greek life pretty damn well. i'm a very active member who works at least 20 hours a week as well as is taking 15 hours so you should for sure realize i am not snobby or stuck up but work my butt off. and i don't get the whole respect part of your comment. last semester i single handedly organized my national sorority's southern district retreat so you better believe they respect me. since i joined my sorority my freshmen year (which was over four years ago) i have always lived with my sisters whether it be in an apt or a house so i know no matter where you may be as long as you have your girls you'll be fine.

Where Are The True Ags?

posted 2/29/08 @ 10:55 AM CST

Originally posted by

busdriver who is a girl and a sorority member

like the other bus driver said if the corp really wanted to provide everything that the girls are losing my moving they can pay for a charter bus for the rest of the semester. it could take the girls to and from campus. also if they really wanted to they could set it up so that the girls could park at the house for meetings and have a charter bus take them to campus. what goodman has to remember is that that route is not only for the occupants of sorority row but for everyone else who lives in that area. to ask transportation services to reroute midsemester is just out of the question. especially if its not a long term deal.

really it sucks that they have to be displaced but the purpose of living in the house is so that you can be with your sisters. these girls will still be able to live together but in a different setting.


Once again do your job better it has been done several times during Rod's tenure as head of transportation service to change routes mid-semester and sometimes more than one. Are you a happy person? You know A&M, because they care, has a help line you could call to discuss issues in your life that are obviously affecting your work and compassion.

Where Are The True Ags?

posted 2/29/08 @ 11:08 AM CST

Originally posted by

busdriver who is a girl and a sorority member

like the other bus driver said if the corp really wanted to provide everything that the girls are losing my moving they can pay for a charter bus for the rest of the semester. it could take the girls to and from campus. also if they really wanted to they could set it up so that the girls could park at the house for meetings and have a charter bus take them to campus. what goodman has to remember is that that route is not only for the occupants of sorority row but for everyone else who lives in that area. to ask transportation services to reroute midsemester is just out of the question. especially if its not a long term deal.

really it sucks that they have to be displaced but the purpose of living in the house is so that you can be with your sisters. these girls will still be able to live together but in a different setting.


This is meant for OMG I'm A Total Zeta. Dude, or dudett, you have issues. Of course Greek Life is going to fight for greeks that's what they are highered to do and if they have any professional pride at all they will do their job. And just because an advisor makes a suggestion doesn't mean the whole Greek Life Office is behind it or that it will happen. If a Resident Hall were uprooted in this fashion ResLife would do the same, or the corps, or any student affiliated organization where student living falls under their jurisdiction. Why do you even care it doesn't affect you? Just remember Aggies are part of ONE big family not multiple splintered families. If your mom had to be relocated in this fashion would you not want your brother and sister along with yourself to help get her around and make sure she's as taken care of as she originally was. That's what it means to be a family, now I have no idea what your homelife was like to not understand this concept. But seriously chill out and call your mom.

ZTA

posted 2/27/08 @ 9:25 PM CST

Since some of you find it necessary to put all these girls down instead of being supportive I thought I would add a little thought...

busdriver who is a girl and in a sorority... you should be ashamed for being so hateful to a fellow greek lady. Not one girl has come to you specially and asked you to change anything for them, and what do you care anyway, you get paid the same no matter where you drive your bus, you just want to complain for the sake of complaining.

Not one Zeta here at A&M has anything to do with the decisions made by the national office. No one has asked to live in a hotel and no one has asked for any kind of bus route, this is the people that are in charge that are making all these changes and requests, not A&M Zetas.

It is ignorant and quite sad that someone would really think sorority girls are what you see in the movies... people who are wirtting comments about money and class OBVIOUSLY have no experience with anything or anyone that is in the greek system. For someone to acctually believe that 200 girls are in the same sittuation financially and have the same attitudes about life is, for lack of better words, stupid.

This sittuation was made public so people did not start making up thier own rumors and so when people drove by the ZTA house they weren't wondering why it was being torn to the ground.

I find it very sad that people would be anything but supportive of fellow aggies and be so quick to judge people who they really know nothing about. Before anyone posts another comment that is anything but supportive I would hope that everyone remembers that talking people down is a sad way to make up for your own lacking life..... Why are you SO WORRIED about changing bus routes or girls moving to a hotel, is it because you need something to worry about to get away from your own boring life? If that is the case post away, but we aren't in highschool, it's not cool to talk people down, it doesn't make you sound cool.

ZTA is 200+ friends that have eachother for support, we're not asking for any handouts. Our nationals might ask for things, but we, as Texas A&M ZTA's are not asking anything of you AND if you were in any national orginization, you would know how nationals worked. So stop complaining about our lives and pay a little more attention to your own. We are accepting and happy with the sittuation and that's all that matters because that is all it effects.

thanks and gig'em

and reade sitton...really....get a life, no one feels sorry for you and your whining either, don't try to compare things that have no relation.

Bus driver

posted 2/27/08 @ 9:50 PM CST

Originally posted by

ZTA

Since some of you find it necessary to put all these girls down instead of being supportive I thought I would add a little thought...

busdriver who is a girl and in a sorority... you should be ashamed for being so hateful to a fellow greek lady. Not one girl has come to you specially and asked you to change anything for them, and what do you care anyway, you get paid the same no matter where you drive your bus, you just want to complain for the sake of complaining.

Not one Zeta here at A&M has anything to do with the decisions made by the national office. No one has asked to live in a hotel and no one has asked for any kind of bus route, this is the people that are in charge that are making all these changes and requests, not A&M Zetas.

It is ignorant and quite sad that someone would really think sorority girls are what you see in the movies... people who are wirtting comments about money and class OBVIOUSLY have no experience with anything or anyone that is in the greek system. For someone to acctually believe that 200 girls are in the same sittuation financially and have the same attitudes about life is, for lack of better words, stupid.

This sittuation was made public so people did not start making up thier own rumors and so when people drove by the ZTA house they weren't wondering why it was being torn to the ground.

I find it very sad that people would be anything but supportive of fellow aggies and be so quick to judge people who they really know nothing about. Before anyone posts another comment that is anything but supportive I would hope that everyone remembers that talking people down is a sad way to make up for your own lacking life..... Why are you SO WORRIED about changing bus routes or girls moving to a hotel, is it because you need something to worry about to get away from your own boring life? If that is the case post away, but we aren't in highschool, it's not cool to talk people down, it doesn't make you sound cool.

ZTA is 200+ friends that have eachother for support, we're not asking for any handouts. Our nationals might ask for things, but we, as Texas A&M ZTA's are not asking anything of you AND if you were in any national orginization, you would know how nationals worked. So stop complaining about our lives and pay a little more attention to your own. We are accepting and happy with the sittuation and that's all that matters because that is all it effects.

thanks and gig'em

and reade sitton...really....get a life, no one feels sorry for you and your whining either, don't try to compare things that have no relation.


I'd complain because I'm sure even if we took a bus that way, you'd still be asses with us for "being late all the time" and give us your stupid lil role of the eyes and personally I don't get paid enough to put up with more of that type of BS. All the girl driver said is that it was stupid for your greek life staff (who represents YOU, therefore is the same voice as YOURS) to ask for a route change.

bus driver who is a girl and a sorority member

posted 2/27/08 @ 10:43 PM CST

lol. zta i find it funny that you think i'm being hateful. you obviously didn't read my comment correctly. i said it sucked that they had to move but was happy that the girls were going to stay together. if anything i was being supportive. i just said it was ridculous for goodman to ask for a route change. i don't consider that being hateful or complaining. i have the best job in the world. i've been driving my fellow aggies around for over two and a half years. i love it and i get paid very well.

alumni

posted 2/28/08 @ 9:34 AM CST

Originally posted by

ZTA

Since some of you find it necessary to put all these girls down instead of being supportive I thought I would add a little thought...

busdriver who is a girl and in a sorority... you should be ashamed for being so hateful to a fellow greek lady. Not one girl has come to you specially and asked you to change anything for them, and what do you care anyway, you get paid the same no matter where you drive your bus, you just want to complain for the sake of complaining.

Not one Zeta here at A&M has anything to do with the decisions made by the national office. No one has asked to live in a hotel and no one has asked for any kind of bus route, this is the people that are in charge that are making all these changes and requests, not A&M Zetas.

It is ignorant and quite sad that someone would really think sorority girls are what you see in the movies... people who are wirtting comments about money and class OBVIOUSLY have no experience with anything or anyone that is in the greek system. For someone to acctually believe that 200 girls are in the same sittuation financially and have the same attitudes about life is, for lack of better words, stupid.

This sittuation was made public so people did not start making up thier own rumors and so when people drove by the ZTA house they weren't wondering why it was being torn to the ground.

I find it very sad that people would be anything but supportive of fellow aggies and be so quick to judge people who they really know nothing about. Before anyone posts another comment that is anything but supportive I would hope that everyone remembers that talking people down is a sad way to make up for your own lacking life..... Why are you SO WORRIED about changing bus routes or girls moving to a hotel, is it because you need something to worry about to get away from your own boring life? If that is the case post away, but we aren't in highschool, it's not cool to talk people down, it doesn't make you sound cool.

ZTA is 200+ friends that have eachother for support, we're not asking for any handouts. Our nationals might ask for things, but we, as Texas A&M ZTA's are not asking anything of you AND if you were in any national orginization, you would know how nationals worked. So stop complaining about our lives and pay a little more attention to your own. We are accepting and happy with the sittuation and that's all that matters because that is all it effects.

thanks and gig'em

and reade sitton...really....get a life, no one feels sorry for you and your whining either, don't try to compare things that have no relation.


As a former student now living out of aggieland, I am a little appalled at some of these posts. People will always have an opinion and I understand that, but what happened to the 12th man and all that this university stands for. We, as Aggies, are supposed to be there for each other, to stand behind one another through the troubles life brings us, atleast that what I learned. We can get all washed up in details of bus routes and who says what but all that really matters is the brotherhood that our great university and its world renowned traditons bring to us. Sorority or not these girls (and all greek life for that matter) are AGGIES.

I am not saying all Greek lifers are perfect. Everyone has their flaws, but growing up is learning to accept people for who they are. Troublesome at times, especially when you get an eye roll or an impatient person on the bus, but doable. Think about your own life, when was the last time you tapped your foot in a grocery line or got a little aggrivated having to wait in traffic? These girls are not saints, so stop asking them to be, because I am certain, you aren't either.

As someone said earlier, stop comparing all sororities to each other and all girls in that sorority to one another. Just like our Aggie network, they are a diverse group of people. Some members work, some have scholarships, some of their parents pay for it. OK. Some girls do well and are in Honors classes, some don't do so hot. Some of them are the sweetest girls you've ever met while some can be snobby. (Even if you are in a soroity and reading this, please think about all of the girls you've met and realize this is true and by no means am I putting you down.) But all of these Greek lifers do something amazing. They help people acroos the continent and in our city. These chapters donate countless hours to their own philanthropies and to others. They raise millions of dollars across the country to donate to organizations that are immensly grateful for their contributions. They help build houses for Habitat for Humanity and give to our own Rape and Crisis Center in Bryan. Greek members are the backbone of Big Event, with many on council. They selflessly give their time to help those in need. Can you say the same for yourself? Maybe you can, maybe you can't. I'm not judging. But please look at what all these people do before making any assumptions about how they should or shouldn't act and live their lives.

Finally, as for the bus route, who cares? You chose to be a bus driver just as many choose to be. Others choose to work in a restaurant or bookstore on campus. We all have to deal with ungrateful, mean, obnoxious people in whatever we do, especially out here in "the real world." But we manage. If they do choose to give these girls a stop, great, it helps them. If not, fine, they will survive. So stop argueing back and forth about the fairness. We all would love for things to work out for us all the time but it just doesn't work that way. I pray that you can use your time for something more constructive than obsessing over routes and stops

Please show some compassion and forgiveness for whatever wrongs the Greek community has shown you and know that people are not perfect. Stand by your fellow AGGIES and hope that everyone stays safe and that things will work out for these 40 girls because they can probably do without your accusations and name calling at this stressful time.

Wow...really??

posted 3/03/08 @ 9:07 AM CST

Originally posted by

ZTA

Since some of you find it necessary to put all these girls down instead of being supportive I thought I would add a little thought...

busdriver who is a girl and in a sorority... you should be ashamed for being so hateful to a fellow greek lady. Not one girl has come to you specially and asked you to change anything for them, and what do you care anyway, you get paid the same no matter where you drive your bus, you just want to complain for the sake of complaining.

Not one Zeta here at A&M has anything to do with the decisions made by the national office. No one has asked to live in a hotel and no one has asked for any kind of bus route, this is the people that are in charge that are making all these changes and requests, not A&M Zetas.

It is ignorant and quite sad that someone would really think sorority girls are what you see in the movies... people who are wirtting comments about money and class OBVIOUSLY have no experience with anything or anyone that is in the greek system. For someone to acctually believe that 200 girls are in the same sittuation financially and have the same attitudes about life is, for lack of better words, stupid.

This sittuation was made public so people did not start making up thier own rumors and so when people drove by the ZTA house they weren't wondering why it was being torn to the ground.

I find it very sad that people would be anything but supportive of fellow aggies and be so quick to judge people who they really know nothing about. Before anyone posts another comment that is anything but supportive I would hope that everyone remembers that talking people down is a sad way to make up for your own lacking life..... Why are you SO WORRIED about changing bus routes or girls moving to a hotel, is it because you need something to worry about to get away from your own boring life? If that is the case post away, but we aren't in highschool, it's not cool to talk people down, it doesn't make you sound cool.

ZTA is 200+ friends that have eachother for support, we're not asking for any handouts. Our nationals might ask for things, but we, as Texas A&M ZTA's are not asking anything of you AND if you were in any national orginization, you would know how nationals worked. So stop complaining about our lives and pay a little more attention to your own. We are accepting and happy with the sittuation and that's all that matters because that is all it effects.

thanks and gig'em

and reade sitton...really....get a life, no one feels sorry for you and your whining either, don't try to compare things that have no relation.


so care to point out where bus driver that is a girl and sorority member was disrespectful, and why she, as opposed to everyone else, is a target for your post? Of anyone, she's been the most respectful....

...shouldn't you be busy moving or something?

ZETA

posted 2/28/08 @ 12:57 AM CST

Whatever happpened to Aggies sticking together??

Nationals went ahead and prevented any serious harm that could have happened and for that all Aggies should be very grateful. This situation could have been a lot worse. Nationals did what they could in a very short amount of time by getting the hotel, where else do you suggest 40+ girls live mid semester without signing a binding contract?? The girls signed a contract with ZTA therefore they have to live where ever ZTA places them, they dont have a choice. And as for the bus route...why is it that big of a deal to lend a helping and to a fellow Aggie...? If this situation happened to anyone else, I would hope that the Aggie community would do everything possible to help the situation. Ifthat means a simple change in a bus route in order to show A&M's support for the sudden uprooting the girls had to do...then thank you. This isn't about who is right or who is wrong, its simply about doing the considerate thing and helping others.

and to add to the comment that sorority girls are just rich and whatever...well from the outside looking in you can never understand sorority life...and from the inside looking out, we can never explain it.
GO GREEK

Ryan

posted 2/28/08 @ 8:36 AM CST

Originally posted by

ZETA

Whatever happpened to
and to add to the comment that sorority girls are just rich and whatever...well from the outside looking in you can never understand sorority life...and from the inside looking out, we can never explain it.
GO GREEK


I understand that you understand greek life is great and all, but I wish you people would stop implying that because you belong to a sorority/frat that your college experience is somehow better than everyone else's. Yes, it's true that you make friends and you learn alot. However, it is just as possible to do that anywhere else.

Aggie06

posted 2/28/08 @ 8:58 AM CST

Please keep in mind that this was their home. Just FYI . . . it's not like they were living there for free. They pay to live in the house just like anyone else who pays to live in the dorms or an apartment. Therefore, it is National's responsibility to provide adequate housing. If you lived in a dorm on the A & M campus and it was found to be structually unsafe midway through the semester, you would expect for A & M to take responsibility and provide alternative housing. I give these girls a hand. To pick up mid semester and move while still juggling school goes to show the competance and grace of these ladies under pressure. The ZTA ladies are leaders on this campus and if you forgot, Miss Vickers was Miss Greek 2008 for gthe right reasons. So instead of criticizing and putting down this wonderful group of ladies, let's applaud them for their efforts in the community and stick by our fellow Aggies. "For we are the Aggies - the Aggies are we. True to each other, as Aggies should be."

Mr. Cynical

posted 2/28/08 @ 11:14 AM CST

Originally posted by

Aggie06

The ZTA ladies are leaders on this campus and if you forgot, Miss Vickers was Miss Greek 2008 for the right reasons.


Yeah they and just about everyone on campus are leaders. I think everyone at this university throws the words "leader" and "leadership" around way too much.

Aggie06

posted 2/28/08 @ 1:37 PM CST

Originally posted by

Aggie06

Please keep in mind that this was their home. Just FYI . . . it's not like they were living there for free. They pay to live in the house just like anyone else who pays to live in the dorms or an apartment. Therefore, it is National's responsibility to provide adequate housing. If you lived in a dorm on the A & M campus and it was found to be structually unsafe midway through the semester, you would expect for A & M to take responsibility and provide alternative housing. I give these girls a hand. To pick up mid semester and move while still juggling school goes to show the competance and grace of these ladies under pressure. The ZTA ladies are leaders on this campus and if you forgot, Miss Vickers was Miss Greek 2008 for gthe right reasons. So instead of criticizing and putting down this wonderful group of ladies, let's applaud them for their efforts in the community and stick by our fellow Aggies. "For we are the Aggies - the Aggies are we. True to each other, as Aggies should be."



Apparently not everyone on this campus is a leader after reading some of these posts. . . .

Leadership for Ags

posted 2/29/08 @ 11:23 AM CST

Originally posted by

Aggie06

Please keep in mind that this was their home. Just FYI . . . it's not like they were living there for free. They pay to live in the house just like anyone else who pays to live in the dorms or an apartment. Therefore, it is National's responsibility to provide adequate housing. If you lived in a dorm on the A & M campus and it was found to be structually unsafe midway through the semester, you would expect for A & M to take responsibility and provide alternative housing. I give these girls a hand. To pick up mid semester and move while still juggling school goes to show the competance and grace of these ladies under pressure. The ZTA ladies are leaders on this campus and if you forgot, Miss Vickers was Miss Greek 2008 for gthe right reasons. So instead of criticizing and putting down this wonderful group of ladies, let's applaud them for their efforts in the community and stick by our fellow Aggies. "For we are the Aggies - the Aggies are we. True to each other, as Aggies should be."


For Mr. Cynical, in the real world, once you get there, you will find the leadership qualities that everybody, who tries, at A&M develops are highly rewarded and sought after. So it would probably be worth it to invest your time in developing these skills, like the ZTA girls and everybody else, rather than being Cynical. Just a thought.

Mr. Cynical, middle name Sacrcastic

posted 2/29/08 @ 2:42 PM CST

Originally posted by

Aggie06

For Mr. Cynical, in the real world, once you get there, you will find the leadership qualities that everybody, who tries, at A&M develops are highly rewarded and sought after. So it would probably be worth it to invest your time in developing these skills, like the ZTA girls and everybody else, rather than being Cynical. Just a thought.


What a grand revelation. I had absolutley no idea that leadership skills were so highly sought. What's next? Problem solving and analytical skills?

the truth

posted 2/29/08 @ 10:25 PM CST

just for the record miss vickers is a classless (insert most disgusting noun you can think of here) who does other peoples' boyfriends. miss greek is not any indication of great leadership or character.

that being said - people have enough going on during the year to have to move out into an impersonal hotel. you can't even make a hotel room your own. sorry girls - hang in there.

gig'em

Originally posted by

Aggie06

Please keep in mind that this was their home. Just FYI . . . it's not like they were living there for free. They pay to live in the house just like anyone else who pays to live in the dorms or an apartment. Therefore, it is National's responsibility to provide adequate housing. If you lived in a dorm on the A & M campus and it was found to be structually unsafe midway through the semester, you would expect for A & M to take responsibility and provide alternative housing. I give these girls a hand. To pick up mid semester and move while still juggling school goes to show the competance and grace of these ladies under pressure. The ZTA ladies are leaders on this campus and if you forgot, Miss Vickers was Miss Greek 2008 for gthe right reasons. So instead of criticizing and putting down this wonderful group of ladies, let's applaud them for their efforts in the community and stick by our fellow Aggies. "For we are the Aggies - the Aggies are we. True to each other, as Aggies should be."

d.m.

posted 2/28/08 @ 9:26 AM CST

This article makes me laugh...hahahahahahahahahahahahahah...oh geez.

ZTA LUVER 6969 911

posted 2/28/08 @ 1:27 PM CST

first of all whats up chix? now that we have been intriduced what i'd like to do is say any of you ladys can crash at my place if you're willing to help out around the house if YOU KNOW what i'm sayun. hit me up on tha hotline like pretty ricky LOL damn gurls ur fine.

ZTA LUVER 6969 911

posted 2/28/08 @ 1:39 PM CST

1 other thing i forgot to mention: i can get alcohol no problem, my roommate is 26. he's overweight and pimply but he's a cool dude ecspecialy when it comes to the ladys. so if you like to party with dues who are 19 and or fat 26 i hope 2 here from u soon! xoxoxoxo

Upset

posted 2/28/08 @ 1:43 PM CST

Originally posted by

ZTA LUVER 6969 911

1 other thing i forgot to mention: i can get alcohol no problem, my roommate is 26. he's overweight and pimply but he's a cool dude ecspecialy when it comes to the ladys. so if you like to party with dues who are 19 and or fat 26 i hope 2 here from u soon! xoxoxoxo


now that is just rude.

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