Loyalty should go both ways for Favre
Abstract:
As Brett Favre's return to football with the Vikings seems certain, many columnists and fans are tired of this annual retirement soap opera....
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rp
posted 7/15/09 @ 7:49 AM CST
Slow day for you Ian? As if this subject hasn't been beaten to death. And with the one-sided "poor Brett" stance yet on top of it. Good grief.
lindsay
posted 7/15/09 @ 9:03 AM CST
TT would have been in deeper water if he were to trade Favre to the Vikings last year so he made the best choice he could give him to a team that won't do anything with him there. The fans would have been in an uproar umm like they are now.
Oh I will watch brett favre play with the vikings because he will end up hurt I just want to see who does it.
Oh I will watch brett favre play with the vikings because he will end up hurt I just want to see who does it.
Dave
posted 7/15/09 @ 10:36 AM CST
Let me get this straight...Rodgers is not worthy of being a role model but Favre is? Why is that? Because "Favre gave everything he had" to the Packers?
Unless I am mistaken Favre got rich for doing that.
You were never a Packer fan. You are a Favre fan. There is nothing wrong with
that. Just don't pretend you were ever anything more than just a Favre fan.
Unless I am mistaken Favre got rich for doing that.
You were never a Packer fan. You are a Favre fan. There is nothing wrong with
that. Just don't pretend you were ever anything more than just a Favre fan.
Spider Savage
posted 7/15/09 @ 10:42 AM CST
Nice article Ian. Favre is just a gamer. Thats all there is too it. He is not in it for the money, as he turned down 25 mill to walk away. He just loves the game. I am not a Viking fan, but if Favre is at the helm, I will nenew may NFL Sunday Ticket subscription and root for him to take them all the way in, and go out like Elway did only 2 years older. Also it would be sad to see the injury riddle him and go down and out. But he is willing to take the beating and take the chance.
Rock on Favre!!
Rock on Favre!!
Alex
posted 7/15/09 @ 10:58 AM CST
We need to stop supporting the "Rodgers" and start supporting the "Favres"? What has Rodgers done wrong? He's been a perfect gentleman and an outstanding quarterback in the midst of this pathetic drama and should be commended. You need to keep Rodgers out of this.
Moreover, if an athlete tells his team that he can no longer commit 100% of his effort to the game then management has a DUTY to remove him from the position. This is particularly true where the player holds what is arguably the most demanding position of any sport--i.e., quarterback for a professional football team. The duty is owed to the team and its fans. Green Bay's management upheld its duty and did the right thing.
And another thing...I bleed green and gold. I suspect you never did. If you truly ever had you would stick with the team, not the player. Brett Favre was a great player, but in a team sport the individual player should never come before the team no matter how good he is. Your comment that you'll thrill in watching the Vikings beat up on the Packers with Favre at the helm betrays your bias.
By the way, I'll delight in watching Brett Favre throw ten picks while under pressure by the new Green Bay defensive scheme during the same two games.
If he dons purple, then Brett Favre goes down in Packer history as a turncoat and I will throw my number 4 jersey on a funeral pyre.
Green Bay forever.
Moreover, if an athlete tells his team that he can no longer commit 100% of his effort to the game then management has a DUTY to remove him from the position. This is particularly true where the player holds what is arguably the most demanding position of any sport--i.e., quarterback for a professional football team. The duty is owed to the team and its fans. Green Bay's management upheld its duty and did the right thing.
And another thing...I bleed green and gold. I suspect you never did. If you truly ever had you would stick with the team, not the player. Brett Favre was a great player, but in a team sport the individual player should never come before the team no matter how good he is. Your comment that you'll thrill in watching the Vikings beat up on the Packers with Favre at the helm betrays your bias.
By the way, I'll delight in watching Brett Favre throw ten picks while under pressure by the new Green Bay defensive scheme during the same two games.
If he dons purple, then Brett Favre goes down in Packer history as a turncoat and I will throw my number 4 jersey on a funeral pyre.
Green Bay forever.
tedthompson
posted 7/15/09 @ 11:38 AM CST
Ian McPhail is a sophomore history major, and an idealistic idiot. The Packers were forced to draft Rodgers by Favre's annual retirement stir. At the time they desperately needed defensive help, but Favres lack of commitment forced their hand, and now its the Packers fault for having too much invested in Rodgers to just let him go? If Favre did come back, he could only be counted on for one year-we thought-so the Packers would have been left with no one of quality to turn to. Had that happened we'd all be here writing about how bad GB's mgmt sucks because they should have known BF was only a fickle call away from retiring and he had served notice.
You're dead a$$ wrong-wake up.
You're dead a$$ wrong-wake up.
Jim
posted 7/15/09 @ 1:15 PM CST
These kind of articles are too few and far between. It is almost like most of the press thinks that athletes need their approval to want to work or go to another team. By and large I have written off the press as they are mostly clueless. And the public is not much better as they buy into the bull that most media spits up. What we heard from Favre so far this year could fit on one page, including his HBO interview. But, if you listen to the press, Favre is changing his mind every other day. Ian very good job.
P.S. I was a devoted G.B. fan until Thompson arrived. As I said when he was hired. He should be flipping burgers somewhere. He is not a G.M.
P.S. I was a devoted G.B. fan until Thompson arrived. As I said when he was hired. He should be flipping burgers somewhere. He is not a G.M.
Chris K
posted 7/15/09 @ 1:53 PM CST
SNOOZE! Half the story isn't worth hearing in this case. There is a line in the sand, an Ian is on the Favre side. It's been a year, and he can do what he wants. At least every true Packer fan knows that the Vikings chances of winning a Super Bowl any time soon is about as good as hell freezing over.
Jim
posted 7/15/09 @ 5:13 PM CST
same for Green Bay or is that hell
Originally posted byChris K
SNOOZE! Half the story isn't worth hearing in this case. There is a line in the sand, an Ian is on the Favre side. It's been a year, and he can do what he wants. At least every true Packer fan knows that the Vikings chances of winning a Super Bowl any time soon is about as good as hell freezing over.
john patrick
posted 7/15/09 @ 4:03 PM CST
Wow, you could not have this more wrong in my opinion. Green Bay management did not push Favre into retirement. In fact, Favre has played a "maybe I will retire" game with the team for several years before officially doing so last year. Had it not been for Green Bay (Ron Wolf, specifically), Favre would have likely been washed out of the league within 2 or 3 years. The author of this article does the best job he can in turning Favre into some kind of martyr which is ridiculously off base. Brett Favre is a very wealthy man today due to what was given to him in Green Bay. Where was his loyalty when the Packers needed to know whether he was going to come back for the next season year after year. Remember this in 6 months when his one year tenure is up in Minnesota.........19 TD, 24 INT, 9 wins, 7 losses. Sage would do much better.
****remember Vikings, you are getting the 2009 Brett, not the 1996 Brett. Not sure what Im talking about? Ask a Jets fan.
****remember Vikings, you are getting the 2009 Brett, not the 1996 Brett. Not sure what Im talking about? Ask a Jets fan.
Jim
posted 7/15/09 @ 5:19 PM CST
It appears ignorance runs deep here. Remember the press did the "Is Brett going to retire" thing. And any player that is not discovered will not be heard of in short order. The point of the article is "let him play" Your point is if you don't like him, he should not play. As I said before, Ignorance runs deep. Suprising for a Packer fan.
Originally posted byjohn patrick
Wow, you could not have this more wrong in my opinion. Green Bay management did not push Favre into retirement. In fact, Favre has played a "maybe I will retire" game with the team for several years before officially doing so last year. Had it not been for Green Bay (Ron Wolf, specifically), Favre would have likely been washed out of the league within 2 or 3 years. The author of this article does the best job he can in turning Favre into some kind of martyr which is ridiculously off base. Brett Favre is a very wealthy man today due to what was given to him in Green Bay. Where was his loyalty when the Packers needed to know whether he was going to come back for the next season year after year. Remember this in 6 months when his one year tenure is up in Minnesota.........19 TD, 24 INT, 9 wins, 7 losses. Sage would do much better.
****remember Vikings, you are getting the 2009 Brett, not the 1996 Brett. Not sure what Im talking about? Ask a Jets fan.
Ross
posted 7/15/09 @ 4:20 PM CST
Great article, Ian!!!
It is most refreshing to find that Ted Thompson's 'spin' doctors haven't got EVERYBODY buffalo'ed.
It's shameful, the way 'Packer Management' treated Brett, and I won't be a Packer Backer again until Ted Thompson is OUT of Green Bay!
Thanks for sharing! :D
It is most refreshing to find that Ted Thompson's 'spin' doctors haven't got EVERYBODY buffalo'ed.
It's shameful, the way 'Packer Management' treated Brett, and I won't be a Packer Backer again until Ted Thompson is OUT of Green Bay!
Thanks for sharing! :D
Nick
posted 7/15/09 @ 5:04 PM CST
I loved Favre. I'm a huge Packers fan.
Saying that by supporting Rodgers, role models will disappear is ridiculous. During the whole debacle, Rodgers kept his mouth shut. He could not have handled it any better, and deserves respect for that.
Everyone conveniently forgets about Favre's party years when he was younger. Not exactly role model material. Why do people get credit for overcoming something (like the pill addiction) when many people don't get addicted in the first place?
Both sides handled the situation horribly. Favre's a man, and shouldn't have retired multiple times if he wasn't ready. No one "forced" him to do it. The man's a legend in Green Bay.
No man is greater than a team. GO PACK GO
Saying that by supporting Rodgers, role models will disappear is ridiculous. During the whole debacle, Rodgers kept his mouth shut. He could not have handled it any better, and deserves respect for that.
Everyone conveniently forgets about Favre's party years when he was younger. Not exactly role model material. Why do people get credit for overcoming something (like the pill addiction) when many people don't get addicted in the first place?
Both sides handled the situation horribly. Favre's a man, and shouldn't have retired multiple times if he wasn't ready. No one "forced" him to do it. The man's a legend in Green Bay.
No man is greater than a team. GO PACK GO
Jonathan
posted 7/15/09 @ 10:38 PM CST
Am I the only one who thinks that if Favre goes to the Vikings, he will instantaneously become the most hated former Packer ever due to the insane rivalry between the Packers and the Vikings? I mean we're talking bigger than Cowboys/Redskins here. Seriously, I think that any respect that Packer fans still have for the man will pretty much be gone after this. Tell me if I'm wrong.
Jonathan
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john Coblentz
posted 7/16/09 @ 6:37 PM CST
Brett Favre a positive role model?I live in Milwaukee and I've seen Favre so hammerd he couldn't even walk.This was in the early and mid 90's and I saw it several times and so did alot of other people.He also had a drug problem which he went to rehab for in '95.The people of wisconsin looked the other way when it came to Brett off the field as well as on.He won alot of games but HE lost alot of big one's as well.He is a great player but I wonder how his career would have panned out had he been on a different team.Now he wants to get back at Greenbay because he didn't like thier general manager.What happened at the end of last season is only the begining of the end for Brett Favre
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posted 7/15/09 @ 12:56 AM CST
Thompson, if he truly believed placing Rodgers under center instead of Favre in 2008 was the best chance for Green Bay to win, should have put on his big boy pants and traded Brett to the highest bidder, not banish him to NY Jets. He should not have been afraid to play him twice. I am a Packer fan but would like a message sent to Teddy via a Purple #4 jersey this year.